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nonsense - trolls cannot do this, only a sysop pretends to know what "non neutral point of view" might be, and to do this correctly requires no sysops, just a consensus of trolls
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here are the basic assumptions i'm relying on: there will be [[Opinion Wiki]] where strict syntax will be required to get aggregate information to [[Publish Wiki]], [[NNPOV|non-neutral-pov]] is the rule. there will be research wiki where all [[NNPOV|non-neutral-pov]] stuff will get axed immediatelly with a kind notice to go mess around in the [[Opinion Wiki]]. [[Publish Wiki]] will import from [[Research Wiki]] pending that someone will bet their own credibility in declaring some information so certain that it needs to be published. also aggregated (via SQL scripts written in a not-yet-decided language) will be used to automatically update the articles in [[Publish Wiki]] with the aggregate information from [[Opinion Wiki]] with highlights and links to the whole mess of opinions --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 17:53, 30 Jun 2004 (EEST) | here are the basic assumptions i'm relying on: there will be [[Opinion Wiki]] where strict syntax will be required to get aggregate information to [[Publish Wiki]], [[NNPOV|non-neutral-pov]] is the rule. there will be research wiki where all [[NNPOV|non-neutral-pov]] stuff will get axed immediatelly with a kind notice to go mess around in the [[Opinion Wiki]]. [[Publish Wiki]] will import from [[Research Wiki]] pending that someone will bet their own credibility in declaring some information so certain that it needs to be published. also aggregated (via SQL scripts written in a not-yet-decided language) will be used to automatically update the articles in [[Publish Wiki]] with the aggregate information from [[Opinion Wiki]] with highlights and links to the whole mess of opinions --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 17:53, 30 Jun 2004 (EEST) | ||
:Nonsense. "all [[NNPOV|non-neutral-pov]] stuff will get axed immediately with a kind notice to go mess around in the [[Opinion Wiki]]" BY WHOM?!??!?! THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "non-neutral POV" unless you mean "everything that the [[sysop power structure]] does not like". There is NO [[ontological distinction]] here other than "I trust the editor to make this decision". That means the [[faction]]s will always fight over who gets to be the editor, etc.. It's just not viable. This is wrong. There could be a consensus way to mark something "more of an opinion" or "less like research" using [[answer recommendation]] but that requires all the information in the SAME [[large public wiki]]. Our dear [[Lowest Troll]] is accidentally becoming a [[sysop]] in his fantasies and imagines he has the wisdom of a [[GodKing]] to decide what is "not neutral". This is just not going to work. There is no "Opinion Wiki" any more, we have the right structure, we just need a formal way to keep what is "questionable research" out of the [[Publish Wiki]] and that only because the [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] doesn't want to get [[lawsuit|sued for it]]. This is a simple achievable goal. Determining what "should be shoved out of sight as mere opinion" is not simple, not achievable, impossible and (most important) [[factionally defined]]. It requires a process to do this, and that is more or less the process of moving something to a talk page. | |||
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