Please debate this here and not in Talk:Consumerium itself which is only one issue affected by these major decisions, nor in Dispute over project-namespace change which is just a bad name since the issues will re-emerge in other disputes later on, i.e. there is no one such dispute, but there will be ongoing disputes about this, all on this page I hope:
The real deal
Using verbs for namespaces just isn't something we are going to do; It just messes the mental coherence of what is the role and meaning of article names in the main namespace and in the other namespaces.
Namespaces must be nouns
I could consider changing the project-namespace to "Development:", but I'd say that "Consudev:" is a good solution:
- It's not too long.
- It's not difficult to remember
- It conveys that the articles in the namespace are about "CONSUmerium DEVelepoment" (which would be way too long to use
--Juxo 20:25, 28 Aug 2005 (GMT)
Dispute
The project is not "consudev" it is "Consumerium". Any other name is just madness and violates all wiki best practice. --142.177.X.X
Keep straight what is Consumerium:namespace and what is Develop:namespace and you will not want a confusion of the two into "consudev" --142.177.X.X
- "Consumerium:" will be the project-namespace used for guidelines and help for editing and viewing the content that is in the main (and other namespaces such as "Company:") --Juxo 18:48, 27 Aug 2005 (GMT)
- "viewing the content that is in the main" at develop.consumerium.org, you mean? what is at consumerium.org? I would presume that is Research: for reasons stated below.
- We *are* using [[Consumerium:]] properly now, and pages like Consumerium:itself are providing exactly that, "guidelines and help for editing" and setting mission of the project (which is certainly the same, it is the "meta" level). This is not "consudev" stuff. If you want to help Consumerium develop:itself then fine link to that page! Likewise if you want it to research:itself or publish:itself, go ahead, those are key functions it must perform:
- define itself (via pages linked to Consumerium:itself)
- develop itself (via pages linked to Develop:itself)
- research itself (via pages linked to Research:itself, say mentions of Consumerium in the press, and effects it has had on decisions, and other empirical neutral evidence)
- publish itself (via pages linked to Publish:itself, which defines its mission and purpose to the world via publications and corrects misimpressions revealed by research, states new directiosn for development, and explains new definitions for its mission)
- OTHER THAN THAT, we agree, [[Consumerium:]] is what Consumerium Governance Organization uses. According to namespace it uses Develop: only to debate development decisions like technology. Maybe this is redundant and we can actually use only main namespace for this? Most large public wikis though use their main namespace for the things that most of the public cares about, so in our case, this should be the Research:].
- A god-awful alternative is to use horrible standard abbreviations like "dev:" and "pub:" but this is just too awful to think about.