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I think this is a misleading ratio. It doesn't take into account for instance the fact that [[coffee]] production is mostly just planting, picking, roasting and grinding beans, while [[cocoa]] production is drastically more equipment and process intensive. You would expect to find a lot more people employed in the processing of cocoa than of coffee. Does that make cocoa better than coffee? Some would argue the opposite, that because coffee takes almost no equipment to process, that it is not creating pollution via factory processes and it is easier to get [[fair trade]] coffee to market than it is for cocoa. | I think this is a misleading ratio. It doesn't take into account for instance the fact that [[coffee]] production is mostly just planting, picking, roasting and grinding beans, while [[cocoa]] production is drastically more equipment and process intensive. | ||
:For this reason we need to aqcuire [[work description]]s and link them from [[product]]s | |||
But the [[employability]]-meter could be useful within one [[country]] eg. a company based in [[Finland]] might employ X people in Finland and Y people in China. Now as in Finland it is fully possible to get [[cashflow]], [[asset]] and [[profit]] information that could be compared for each [[consumer]] according to her/his [[preferences]] on which countries to value for employment effect. | |||
:Further on the [[employability]] [[ratio]] could be related to median or average pay to be more informative | |||
You would expect to find a lot more people employed in the processing of cocoa than of coffee. Does that make cocoa better than coffee? Some would argue the opposite, that because coffee takes almost no equipment to process, that it is not creating pollution via factory processes and it is easier to get [[fair trade]] coffee to market than it is for cocoa. | |||
So how do I do comparison of moccacino with espresso at Starbucks? Yeargh. Too many [[value]]s mixed up and assumed in one metric. | So how do I do comparison of moccacino with espresso at Starbucks? Yeargh. Too many [[value]]s mixed up and assumed in one metric. | ||
The basic idea is sound, but, you must more directly compare a [[labour-intensive]] to a [[capital-intensive]] process. There is such a thing as capital intensity ratio in some theories of economics I think, and many economists believe that a low ratio is much more appropriate in [[developing nation]]s. [[w:E. F. Schumacher]] had the concept [[w:intermediate technology]] to reflect this, which was a compromise between the "no tools, too much labour" of poor places, the "little highly skilled labour, way too many high tech tools employing a vast hierarchy of specialist" rule of rich places. A [[developing nation]] according to him had to replace US$1 worth of tools with US$10 and US$100 worth, not US$10,000 worth as in a modern US factory... | The basic idea is sound, but, you must more directly compare a [[labour-intensive]] to a [[capital-intensive]] process. There is such a thing as capital intensity ratio in some theories of economics I think, and many economists believe that a low ratio is much more appropriate in [[developing nation]]s. [[w:E. F. Schumacher]] had the concept [[w:intermediate technology]] to reflect this, which was a compromise between the "no tools, too much labour" of poor places, the "little highly skilled labour, way too many high tech tools employing a vast hierarchy of specialist" rule of rich places. A [[developing nation]] according to him had to replace US$1 worth of tools with US$10 and US$100 worth, not US$10,000 worth as in a modern US factory... | ||
Revision as of 17:23, 7 March 2004
I think this is a misleading ratio. It doesn't take into account for instance the fact that coffee production is mostly just planting, picking, roasting and grinding beans, while cocoa production is drastically more equipment and process intensive.
- For this reason we need to aqcuire work descriptions and link them from products
But the employability-meter could be useful within one country eg. a company based in Finland might employ X people in Finland and Y people in China. Now as in Finland it is fully possible to get cashflow, asset and profit information that could be compared for each consumer according to her/his preferences on which countries to value for employment effect.
- Further on the employability ratio could be related to median or average pay to be more informative
You would expect to find a lot more people employed in the processing of cocoa than of coffee. Does that make cocoa better than coffee? Some would argue the opposite, that because coffee takes almost no equipment to process, that it is not creating pollution via factory processes and it is easier to get fair trade coffee to market than it is for cocoa.
So how do I do comparison of moccacino with espresso at Starbucks? Yeargh. Too many values mixed up and assumed in one metric.
The basic idea is sound, but, you must more directly compare a labour-intensive to a capital-intensive process. There is such a thing as capital intensity ratio in some theories of economics I think, and many economists believe that a low ratio is much more appropriate in developing nations. w:E. F. Schumacher had the concept w:intermediate technology to reflect this, which was a compromise between the "no tools, too much labour" of poor places, the "little highly skilled labour, way too many high tech tools employing a vast hierarchy of specialist" rule of rich places. A developing nation according to him had to replace US$1 worth of tools with US$10 and US$100 worth, not US$10,000 worth as in a modern US factory...