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:::Unfortunately, despite the fact that these exact concepts are the ones required to discuss [[governance]] with non-English speaking users, or if you are conspiracy-minded, ''because'' those are the concepts required to get them out of an [[unequal power relationship]] and dealing as equals with sysops, the articles on [[contact network]], [[power network]] and [[social network]] were all deleted by [[User:Angela]] or some other relatively unaccountable sysop... so the [[Simple English Wikipedia]] is not a reliable place to collaborate on, maybe ''especially'' not, concepts absolutely essential to our [[governance]], to allow us to do [[consensus decision-making]] even with people from quite different cultures. We can't get into, or trust, an [[inquisitor]] culture... | :::Unfortunately, despite the fact that these exact concepts are the ones required to discuss [[governance]] with non-English speaking users, or if you are conspiracy-minded, ''because'' those are the concepts required to get them out of an [[unequal power relationship]] and dealing as equals with sysops, the articles on [[contact network]], [[power network]] and [[social network]] were all deleted by [[User:Angela]] or some other relatively unaccountable sysop... so the [[Simple English Wikipedia]] is not a reliable place to collaborate on, maybe ''especially'' not, concepts absolutely essential to our [[governance]], to allow us to do [[consensus decision-making]] even with people from quite different cultures. We can't get into, or trust, an [[inquisitor]] culture... | ||
::::Try http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/contact%20network. Still there! [[User:Angela|Angela]] 06:48, 13 Jan 2004 (EET) | |||
::They raised some [[IP block]]s, but, they'll probably block 'em again as soon as a personal friend of the [[GodKing]] is offended, and they simply don't have a real workable definition of [[Simple English]] that would serve the purposes they claim to serve. So now I recommend we work only on our own [[glossary]], and if they want to nab some text, fine, let 'em, its all [[GFDL]] anyway. It would have been nice to be able to fully define something at the SEW and then refer only to a more focused definition here, but, that is just not reliable with the present [[sysop power structure]] there, even if it's slightly less oppressive than it was yesterday. | ::They raised some [[IP block]]s, but, they'll probably block 'em again as soon as a personal friend of the [[GodKing]] is offended, and they simply don't have a real workable definition of [[Simple English]] that would serve the purposes they claim to serve. So now I recommend we work only on our own [[glossary]], and if they want to nab some text, fine, let 'em, its all [[GFDL]] anyway. It would have been nice to be able to fully define something at the SEW and then refer only to a more focused definition here, but, that is just not reliable with the present [[sysop power structure]] there, even if it's slightly less oppressive than it was yesterday. | ||