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verbs as namespaces are the only sensible long-term thing, since you divide namespaces based on the fact that you DO different things with what is contained in that namespace
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(verbs as namespaces are the only sensible long-term thing, since you divide namespaces based on the fact that you DO different things with what is contained in that namespace)
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*It's not difficult to remember
*It's not difficult to remember
*It conveys that the articles in the namespace are about "CONSUmerium DEVelepoment" (which would be way too long to use
*It conveys that the articles in the namespace are about "CONSUmerium DEVelepoment" (which would be way too long to use
--[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 20:25, 28 Aug 2005 (GMT)


--[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 20:25, 28 Aug 2005 (GMT)
::"Develop" is a verb like "Research" or "Publish" and is evidently good enough to be the subdomain name with no problems.  It is NOT a good solution unless you want to invent other crap words like "ConsuRes" or "ConsuPub".


And more - you (142) wrote the article [[wiki best practice]] that touts http://dowire.org/wiki/Wiki_best_practice as the best in "best practice" and in there we find http://dowire.org/wiki/Avoid_new_namespaces . Now what is the coherence in that that you are pushing for 7 namespaces for recording [[policies]], [[guidelines]] and [[help]] reagarding the way that Consumerium is run.
And more - you (142) wrote the article [[wiki best practice]] that touts http://dowire.org/wiki/Wiki_best_practice as the best in "best practice" and in there we find http://dowire.org/wiki/Avoid_new_namespaces . Now what is the coherence in that that you are pushing for 7 namespaces for recording [[policies]], [[guidelines]] and [[help]] reagarding the way that Consumerium is run.
::Wikipedia has three, the [[User:]], [[Wikipedia:]] and the main namespace plus the various meta things, and of course a talk space to parallel each.  That's four right there.  And what Consumerium is doing is much more complex and rigorous than what Wikipedia is doing.


I repeat that verbs are not going to be used as namespaces. I tried it already (to keep the project-namespace in accordance with the domain-name), but it was just plain confusing and not a good practice.
I repeat that verbs are not going to be used as namespaces. I tried it already (to keep the project-namespace in accordance with the domain-name), but it was just plain confusing and not a good practice.
::Sorry, verbs are the only rational long term namespaces, since the only rational reason you divide up namespaces is to DO different things to what is named.  You are wrong, it is not confusing to anyone doing anything intelligent, e.g. helping Consumerium [[research itself]] or [[develop itself]].  If that makes sense, then, the verb namespace makes sense.  You are just not thinking clearly about this. 
::Also one must keep the namespace and domain name in sync so that when you go to "Develop.consumerium.org/whatever" you are getting the same thing as "research.consumerium.org/develop:whatever".  Any other solution is just not a solution, it's a problem.


The namespaces we are going to have are going to be in the manner of
The namespaces we are going to have are going to be in the manner of
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*[[GTIN:]], [[EAN:]] and [[UPC:]] --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 20:37, 28 Aug 2005 (GMT)
*[[GTIN:]], [[EAN:]] and [[UPC:]] --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 20:37, 28 Aug 2005 (GMT)


::You are blathering on using instinct instead of DESIGNING this.  Yes, it is quite reasonable to have different namespaces per product naming scheme, that is fine.  One must avoid new namespaces not ban them.
::It's reasonable to drop "Research:" in favour of the names of things researched, yes, but the problem with that is that there is no place to state policy regarding research so the name re-emerges.


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