Talk:Troll vandalism: Difference between revisions

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    (be glad we trolls admit that we sometimes DO engage in vandalism - sysops don't admit that, and it's the main problem in all this)
     
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    You should be glad [[trolls]] are acknowledging that there is any such thing as [[troll vandalism]] at all!  It is not like [[sysop]]s acknowledge there is such a thing as [[sysop vandalism]].  So trolls are morally superior in knowing that some of their own kind are doing things that are morally indefensible.
    You should be glad [[trolls]] are acknowledging that there is any such thing as [[troll vandalism]] at all!  It is not like [[sysop]]s acknowledge there is such a thing as [[sysop vandalism]].  So trolls are morally superior in knowing that some of their own kind are doing things that are morally indefensible.
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    == use of technological escalation ==
    In the SOLLOG case, it is not clear if wikipediasucks.com actually has engaged in [[vandalbot]] design or other [[technological escalation]].  If his then the pro-SOLLOG forces have become their own [[sysop power structure]]
    :They have become a sysop power structure only in the sense that no-one else may edit their site because it is a static HTML site where no-one else gets any say to what is being published
    and their struggle with the sysops is no longer a [[troll-sysop struggle]] nor a [[troll war]] between those with [[equal power relationship]]s, but rather, a simple [[arms race]] between two groups using [[sysop vandalism]]. 
    :Let's not mix up established terminology. Sysop vandalism can be done only by those that have sysop rights to a certain wiki (or other site). '''There is no such thing as sysop vandalism on by parties with no sysop rights.
    In that case, neither would be any morally superior to the other, they would just be two groups using different technology, at the same moral level.
    :Rubbish

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    You should be glad trolls are acknowledging that there is any such thing as troll vandalism at all! It is not like sysops acknowledge there is such a thing as sysop vandalism. So trolls are morally superior in knowing that some of their own kind are doing things that are morally indefensible.



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    use of technological escalation

    In the SOLLOG case, it is not clear if wikipediasucks.com actually has engaged in vandalbot design or other technological escalation. If his then the pro-SOLLOG forces have become their own sysop power structure

    They have become a sysop power structure only in the sense that no-one else may edit their site because it is a static HTML site where no-one else gets any say to what is being published

    and their struggle with the sysops is no longer a troll-sysop struggle nor a troll war between those with equal power relationships, but rather, a simple arms race between two groups using sysop vandalism.

    Let's not mix up established terminology. Sysop vandalism can be done only by those that have sysop rights to a certain wiki (or other site). There is no such thing as sysop vandalism on by parties with no sysop rights.

    In that case, neither would be any morally superior to the other, they would just be two groups using different technology, at the same moral level.

    Rubbish