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Today I downloaded [[MediaWiki]] 1.3.0beta3 and installed it on my iBook to try out the [[XML]]-import facility by commenting out the lines that disable the code from running. I have to say that the way it works by asking you to upload a downloaded xml-dump is really inadequate for our future needs. | Today I downloaded [[MediaWiki]] 1.3.0beta3 and installed it on my iBook to try out the [[XML]]-import facility by commenting out the lines that disable the code from running. I have to say that the way it works by asking you to upload a downloaded xml-dump is really inadequate for our future needs. | ||
::Right. The [[GetWiki]] way is the correct way: direct to another web address and tranparently mirror the material as is, including all changes, until there is a need to fork just that one page. However there are ideological reasons and [[Wikimedia corruption]] reasons why you will not ever get the [[MediaWiki]] coders to do that. | |||
*What we would need is a myriad of wikis with radiobuttons to choose from which wiki to import and do it live, not manually saving and uploading the file. | *What we would need is a myriad of wikis with radiobuttons to choose from which wiki to import and do it live, not manually saving and uploading the file. | ||
::Yes, absolutely. Being able to import from a different wiki per article is ideal. At least a different wiki per namespace! | |||
*Also importing histories failed | *Also importing histories failed | ||
::That's unacceptable given [[GFDL]], but [[GetWiki]] doesn't do that right either. Also when Wikipedia exports it give you only the last edit comments not the whole list of editors you'd need to do [[GFDL]] [[attribution]] to the legally required standard. | |||
*Actually whole import thingy failed even though it reported success for uploading files without the history parts. | *Actually whole import thingy failed even though it reported success for uploading files without the history parts. | ||
::Disaster! | |||
*Also what is needed is suffixing the imports so that we could have [[Article]], for imported from [[Research Wiki]] to [[Publish Wiki]] [[Article (Wikipedia)]], for articles imported from Wikipedia, [[Article (CorpKnowPedia)]], [[Article (Disinfopedia)]] and what have you. | *Also what is needed is suffixing the imports so that we could have [[Article]], for imported from [[Research Wiki]] to [[Publish Wiki]] [[Article (Wikipedia)]], for articles imported from Wikipedia, [[Article (CorpKnowPedia)]], [[Article (Disinfopedia)]] and what have you. | ||
::Yes, you see this issue all the time with redirects from [[Meta-Wikipedia]] to [[Wikipedia]], and probably it's also required for [[Simple English]] to full English: rather than seeing NO article in Simple, it would make sense to see the Full one. Rather than seeing no article in full where there's one in simple, it would make sense to mirror it. | |||
Revision as of 21:08, 15 June 2004
15.6.2004
Today I downloaded MediaWiki 1.3.0beta3 and installed it on my iBook to try out the XML-import facility by commenting out the lines that disable the code from running. I have to say that the way it works by asking you to upload a downloaded xml-dump is really inadequate for our future needs.
- Right. The GetWiki way is the correct way: direct to another web address and tranparently mirror the material as is, including all changes, until there is a need to fork just that one page. However there are ideological reasons and Wikimedia corruption reasons why you will not ever get the MediaWiki coders to do that.
- What we would need is a myriad of wikis with radiobuttons to choose from which wiki to import and do it live, not manually saving and uploading the file.
- Yes, absolutely. Being able to import from a different wiki per article is ideal. At least a different wiki per namespace!
- Also importing histories failed
- That's unacceptable given GFDL, but GetWiki doesn't do that right either. Also when Wikipedia exports it give you only the last edit comments not the whole list of editors you'd need to do GFDL attribution to the legally required standard.
- Actually whole import thingy failed even though it reported success for uploading files without the history parts.
- Disaster!
- Also what is needed is suffixing the imports so that we could have Article, for imported from Research Wiki to Publish Wiki Article (Wikipedia), for articles imported from Wikipedia, Article (CorpKnowPedia), Article (Disinfopedia) and what have you.
- Yes, you see this issue all the time with redirects from Meta-Wikipedia to Wikipedia, and probably it's also required for Simple English to full English: rather than seeing NO article in Simple, it would make sense to see the Full one. Rather than seeing no article in full where there's one in simple, it would make sense to mirror it.