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Here is more proof of Wikimedia corruption, as if any is needed. These deletions were not discussed anywhere. "Eloquence" is a [[sysop vandalism|sysop vandal]]:

Here is more proof of Wikimedia corruption, as if any is needed. These deletions were not discussed anywhere. "Eloquence" (self-declared as [[Erik Moeller]]) is a [[sysop vandalism|sysop vandal]]:

*(diff) (hist) . . Meta:Deletion log; 23:35 . . Eloquence (Talk) (deleted "Wiki lawyer": content was: 'A '''Wiki lawyer''' is someone who argues the rules incessantly with the [[sysop power structure]]. Sometimes this is worse than having a [[priestly ...')

::This article refers to an previously unknown term and therefore can be deleted as something that someone just thought up and decided to write an article on

:::That's not the process on meta. Nor was the article written by the troll whose work was being censored at the time. Likewise this next one on WIPE. Erik Moeller (Eloquence) simply took the opportunity to destroy work that was offensive to himself and his chosen policies. It was political censorship, only:

:::That's not the process on meta. Nor was the article written by the troll whose work was being censored at the time. Likewise this next one on WIPE. [[Erik Moeller]] (Eloquence) simply took the opportunity to destroy work that was offensive to himself and his chosen policies. It was political censorship, only:

*(diff) (hist) . . Meta:Deletion log; 23:35 . . Eloquence (Talk) (deleted "WIPE syndrome")

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:This just proves that any attempt to call this "foundation" to even its bare legal requirements of accountability will be met with censorship, name-calling and [[libel chill]] as a response.

:Also see [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2004-May/000038.html this from Anthere] which clearly demonstrates that decisions are made by [[usurper]]s doing [[developer vigilantiism]] (Moeller, Starling) who don't consult with this "foundation" before making legal and usability and other decisions. The whole thing is a front group for Moeller and Starling now. It has no credibility.

:Also see [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2004-May/000038.html this from Anthere] which clearly demonstrates that decisions are made by [[usurper]]s doing [[developer vigilantiism]] ([[Erik Moeller]], [[Tim Starling]]) who don't consult with this "foundation" before making legal and usability and other decisions. The whole thing is a front group for Moeller and Starling now. It has no credibility.

:How can [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] avoid being hijacked by some similar gang of thugs?

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''Moved from article'' for unclear reasons. Seems to document some useful history of the project:

As recently reported at [[w:Talk:Fallujah]]: "His work under the title "

"[[GodKing]]" for several years encouraged new Wikipedia leaders to use cult-like language that discouraged opposition to his views, and to disparage those who offer counterveiling policies. Bomis's owner Jim Wales set the direction away from a peer-reviewed encyclopedia, and presents as a primary pundit against the feasibility of reviewed encyclopedias in numerous interviews." This much is factual and verifiable. Less clear is the impact of this policy, which "driven by Bomis' desire for rapid development, made Wikipedia more available to those who present election-time and war-time misinformation." Obviously this has become an issue in a US election year when there is an ongoing war in [[Iraq]].

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Re: "requests such as "Please stop it" from Wales" - obviously such a "request" is very loaded by the threat of [[technological escalation]], and [[English Wikipedia User Secretlondon]] saw it for what it was: censorship. As for what "it" is, what is "it"? [[w:Anti-Americanism]] ? All sane people are anti-American. So every word of "please", "stop" and "it" are loaded by the implications of [[GodKing]] making the request, and [[priestly hierarchy]] enforcing it. It just isn't possible for Wales to make such a "request", it will be interpreted as an "order" or "license" by those who want to attack her. And it was.

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-Here is more proof of Wikimedia corruption, as if any is needed.  These deletions were not discussed anywhere.  "Eloquence" is a [[sysop vandalism|sysop vandal]]:
+Here is more proof of Wikimedia corruption, as if any is needed.  These deletions were not discussed anywhere.  "Eloquence" (self-declared as [[Erik Moeller]]) is a [[sysop vandalism|sysop vandal]]:
 *(diff) (hist) . . Meta:Deletion log; 23:35 . . Eloquence (Talk) (deleted "Wiki lawyer": content was: 'A '''Wiki lawyer''' is someone who argues the rules incessantly with the [[sysop power structure]]. Sometimes this is worse than having a [[priestly ...')
 ::This article refers to an previously unknown term and therefore can be deleted as something that someone just thought up and decided to write an article on
-:::That's not the process on meta.  Nor was the article written by the troll whose work was being censored at the time.  Likewise this next one on WIPE.  Erik Moeller (Eloquence) simply took the opportunity to destroy work that was offensive to himself and his chosen policies.  It was political censorship, only:
+:::That's not the process on meta.  Nor was the article written by the troll whose work was being censored at the time.  Likewise this next one on WIPE.  [[Erik Moeller]] (Eloquence) simply took the opportunity to destroy work that was offensive to himself and his chosen policies.  It was political censorship, only:
 *(diff) (hist) . . Meta:Deletion log; 23:35 . . Eloquence (Talk) (deleted "WIPE syndrome")
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 :This just proves that any attempt to call this "foundation" to even its bare legal requirements of accountability will be met with censorship, name-calling and [[libel chill]] as a response.
-:Also see [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2004-May/000038.html this from Anthere] which clearly demonstrates that decisions are made by [[usurper]]s doing [[developer vigilantiism]] (Moeller, Starling) who don't consult with this "foundation" before making legal and usability and other decisions.  The whole thing is a front group for Moeller and Starling now.  It has no credibility.
+:Also see [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2004-May/000038.html this from Anthere] which clearly demonstrates that decisions are made by [[usurper]]s doing [[developer vigilantiism]] ([[Erik Moeller]], [[Tim Starling]]) who don't consult with this "foundation" before making legal and usability and other decisions.  The whole thing is a front group for Moeller and Starling now.  It has no credibility.
 :How can [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] avoid being hijacked by some similar gang of thugs?
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+''Moved from article'' for unclear reasons.  Seems to document some useful history of the project:
+As recently reported at [[w:Talk:Fallujah]]: "His work under the title "
+"[[GodKing]]" for several years encouraged new Wikipedia leaders to use cult-like language that discouraged opposition to his views, and to disparage those who offer counterveiling policies. Bomis's owner Jim Wales set the direction away from a peer-reviewed encyclopedia, and presents as a primary pundit against the feasibility of reviewed encyclopedias in numerous interviews." This much is factual and verifiable. Less clear is the impact of this policy, which "driven by Bomis' desire for rapid development, made Wikipedia more available to those who present election-time and war-time misinformation." Obviously this has become an issue in a US election year when there is an ongoing war in [[Iraq]].
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+Re:  "requests such as "Please stop it" from Wales" - obviously such a "request" is very loaded by the threat of [[technological escalation]], and [[English Wikipedia User Secretlondon]] saw it for what it was:  censorship.  As for what "it" is, what is "it"?  [[w:Anti-Americanism]] ?  All sane people are anti-American.  So every word of "please", "stop" and "it" are loaded by the implications of [[GodKing]] making the request, and [[priestly hierarchy]] enforcing it.  It just isn't possible for Wales to make such a "request", it will be interpreted as an "order" or "license" by those who want to attack her.  And it was.