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, 14 September 2004about the board vote issue. and btw 142.177.X..X could you stop confusing people with reintedenting paras like way inappropriatelly
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::This is wrong. They are corrupt because they did not WANT to initially. A non-corrupt organization does not have to be asked to release election result data. | ::This is wrong. They are corrupt because they did not WANT to initially. A non-corrupt organization does not have to be asked to release election result data. | ||
:::They released it for the part that matters: Who got elected. I too think it is shady not to release full results immediatelly after they have been counted --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 19:34, 14 Sep 2004 (EEST) | |||
The partially released [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2004-June/000370.html results] of the [[Wikimedia Board of Trustees]] "election" proves what [[trolls]] have always said: it is a front for the [[sysop power structure]]: | The partially released [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2004-June/000370.html results] of the [[Wikimedia Board of Trustees]] "election" proves what [[trolls]] have always said: it is a front for the [[sysop power structure]]: | ||
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===Motivation for critiqued practice=== | ===Motivation for critiqued practice=== | ||
This is not true. Imran and Danny have decided to not release full results apparently because some candidates wished they not be released. This has been critisized in the #wikipedia IRC channel recently and a plan is proposed that all results of those candidates who agree to releasing their votecounts would be released and those withholding would just look silly. | |||
:Sorry, this was true when written, and, full disclosure is full disclosure. What were they trying to hide? --[[142.177.X.X]] | |||
::See above --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 19:34, 14 Sep 2004 (EEST) | |||
Whether they succeeded in hiding it or not. It appears they were trying to hide just how many cronies could use their cronyism to score high in this "election" | |||
::The full disclosure of vote counts does not resolve this question. In case one would study who voted, one could construct an credible attack on the integrity of the vote by claiming either/and that [[sock puppet]]s voted (impossible to avoid in an open [[wiki]]) or that good votes were cast away as duplicates (vote rigging)--[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 19:34, 14 Sep 2004 (EEST) | |||
===Resolution to claim being false=== | ===Resolution to claim being false=== | ||
After taking up the issue with Danny here are the full election results http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_results --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] | |||
*Claim proved false and moved to [[Talk:Wikimedia_corruption]] claims on '''14:48, 19 Jun 2004 (EEST)''' | *Claim proved false and moved to [[Talk:Wikimedia_corruption]] claims on '''14:48, 19 Jun 2004 (EEST)''' | ||
*'''Claim moved to [[FUCOC]] by and on --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 18:32, 9 Sep 2004 (EEST)''' | *'''Claim moved to [[FUCOC]] by and on --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 18:32, 9 Sep 2004 (EEST)''' | ||
::Again from [[Sysop Vandal point of view]]. Only to the [[sysop vandalism|sysop vandal]] does a claim correct when made and referencing the intent of people become 'False' when those people are finally forced to give in. If you steal something and lie about it, and I say you are a thief, then, you give it back, does the claim that you are a thief become a "false claim"? | |||
:::Let me put it this way. Claim is no longer correct. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 19:34, 14 Sep 2004 (EEST) | |||
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