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make en:w: and fr:w: work, and we'll try to solve language problems; until then, you are asking us to solve Wikipedia problems, and we refuse.
(critique of interwiki link standard and a plea to move on to practical issues we need to solve instead of whining about "what they are doing wrong" (MediaWiki developers))
(make en:w: and fr:w: work, and we'll try to solve language problems; until then, you are asking us to solve Wikipedia problems, and we refuse.)
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:Proposed by some trolls. Can we focus on real issues like how to subdivide the [[wikis]] so that people ([[consumer]]s,�[[developer]]s, [[researcher]]s...etc) get adequate access to the information without being engulfed into global Consumerium. That is we need local [[Wikis]] in local [[languages]] but how are things to be [[designer|designed]] so that it works smoothly (read: people can access services in a language natural to them and access only locally relevant information, not some comparison of some [[supermarket]]s on the other side of the globe)? --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 18:28, 13 Mar 2004 (EET)
:Proposed by some trolls. Can we focus on real issues like how to subdivide the [[wikis]] so that people ([[consumer]]s,�[[developer]]s, [[researcher]]s...etc) get adequate access to the information without being engulfed into global Consumerium. That is we need local [[Wikis]] in local [[languages]] but how are things to be [[designer|designed]] so that it works smoothly (read: people can access services in a language natural to them and access only locally relevant information, not some comparison of some [[supermarket]]s on the other side of the globe)? --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 18:28, 13 Mar 2004 (EET)
::No point in further discussion by [[trolls]] of any language issues until the [[Lowest Troll]] demonstrates that he understands enough of them to be worth talking to about it.  It would take you two seconds to make sure that [[fr:Wikipedia:Commerce_quitable]] works, and that [[W:fr:Commerce_quitable]] goes to a page saying "please put the language first, how am I to know what the "w:" means until I know you are in French?".  Who really cares if [[w:]] goes to [[en:Wikipedia:]] or [[Wikipedia:en:]] behind the scenes?  This is a service policy issue, it's irrelevant what [[GetWiki]] or [[MediaWiki]] do right now.  Services have to set the right precedents.  We'll work hard on this when the links are in the right order.  And [[en:]], [[fr:]] should just go to the best source, period, which might be [[Recyclopedia]] or [[Disinfopedia]] or [[Wikinfo]] or [[Metaweb]] for some articles.  There should be nothing assumed about the service that one is invoking when one simply indicates language codes.  That's what the ISO says, anyway.  And they set standards, not trolls and not developers.
::So make [[en:w:]] and [[fr:w:]] work, and disable the reverse, and we'll try to solve language problems;  until then, you are asking us to solve Wikipedia problems, and we refuse
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