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It's been looking like for some time now that to make [[Transparent Consumerium]] work we will have to develop into the direction of multiple regional wikis thus [[Consumeria]] (plural), but the real issue to solve is how to arrange them and make them interact smoothly. If all internal content is licensed under [[GFDL]] it would make governance easier because of the ability to fork. Naturally there will be an international [[Consumerium]] for multinational companies and brands. Also an advantage in Consumeria approach is that server load can be broken down into many small streams and connection costs reduced by hosting locally. | It's been looking like for some time now that to make [[Transparent Consumerium]] work we will have to develop into the direction of multiple regional wikis thus [[Consumeria]] (plural), but the real issue to solve is how to arrange them and make them interact smoothly. If all internal content is licensed under [[GFDL]] it would make governance easier because of the ability to fork. | ||
:No, just sending dissidents off to compete with you doesn't "make governance easier". There should be one regional Consumerium per ecologically and linguistically sane region, and it must work hard to retain a monopoly. To allow corporate spinoffs and competitors with tons of money to take the same content and create an only slightly fudged version destroys the integrity of the whole system. It's a cop-out. A more robust consortium than GFDL allows for must be there. Creative Commons might allow for the kind of use we need for internal content. | |||
Naturally there will be an international [[Consumerium]] for multinational companies and brands. Also an advantage in Consumeria approach is that server load can be broken down into many small streams and connection costs reduced by hosting locally. | |||
:Yes, local hosting makes sense, and local variants working in local languages make sense. Permitting arbitrary spinoffs does not. But arbitrary hosting is fine. | |||
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I'm quite beat now and for the unseen future. There is 40 days remaining to the one-year anniversary of this [[wiki]] so maybe try to get this mess fixed by then. | I'm quite beat now and for the unseen future. There is 40 days remaining to the one-year anniversary of this [[wiki]] so maybe try to get this mess fixed by then. | ||
:The filling-in process has got stalled due to the need to outline the issues with [[sysop vandalism]] and such. However a benefit is that Consumerium now has the best description of what goes wrong on wiki [[sysop power structure]], and is way ahead of Meatball and Meta-Wikipedia and most others in this regard. | |||
Revision as of 18:56, 8 February 2004
4.2.2004
It's been looking like for some time now that to make Transparent Consumerium work we will have to develop into the direction of multiple regional wikis thus Consumeria (plural), but the real issue to solve is how to arrange them and make them interact smoothly. If all internal content is licensed under GFDL it would make governance easier because of the ability to fork.
- No, just sending dissidents off to compete with you doesn't "make governance easier". There should be one regional Consumerium per ecologically and linguistically sane region, and it must work hard to retain a monopoly. To allow corporate spinoffs and competitors with tons of money to take the same content and create an only slightly fudged version destroys the integrity of the whole system. It's a cop-out. A more robust consortium than GFDL allows for must be there. Creative Commons might allow for the kind of use we need for internal content.
Naturally there will be an international Consumerium for multinational companies and brands. Also an advantage in Consumeria approach is that server load can be broken down into many small streams and connection costs reduced by hosting locally.
- Yes, local hosting makes sense, and local variants working in local languages make sense. Permitting arbitrary spinoffs does not. But arbitrary hosting is fine.
2.2.2004
I'm quite beat now and for the unseen future. There is 40 days remaining to the one-year anniversary of this wiki so maybe try to get this mess fixed by then.
- The filling-in process has got stalled due to the need to outline the issues with sysop vandalism and such. However a benefit is that Consumerium now has the best description of what goes wrong on wiki sysop power structure, and is way ahead of Meatball and Meta-Wikipedia and most others in this regard.