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*[[Wikipedia]] has a mixed structure where the [[sysop power structure]] self-regulates, ineffectively, resulting in the [[sysop vandalism]] and [[sysop vandal point of view]] mostly dominating [[wiki management]] and [[wiki governance]] debate. Without the power to '''undelete page'''s it becomes difficult or impossible to participate in an [[edit war]] against those who do have it, reinforcing the [[Wikimedia]] [[cabal]]. | *[[Wikipedia]] has a mixed structure where the [[sysop power structure]] self-regulates, ineffectively, resulting in the [[sysop vandalism]] and [[sysop vandal point of view]] mostly dominating [[wiki management]] and [[wiki governance]] debate. Without the power to '''undelete page'''s it becomes difficult or impossible to participate in an [[edit war]] against those who do have it, reinforcing the [[Wikimedia]] [[cabal]]. | ||
*[[ | *[[Anarcopedia]] distributes the power to '''undelete page'''s to all users, so that there is effectively no [[sysop power structure]] at all; [[ad hominem delete]] is this only very slightly more powerful than [[ad hominem revert]] as a means of curtailing debate, and no user can actually gain much power over any other in an [[edit war]]. | ||
It is very likely that [[Consumerium Services]] would adopt very different policies for each of its [[Wikis]]. For instance: | It is very likely that [[Consumerium Services]] would adopt very different policies for each of its [[Wikis]]. For instance: | ||
*the [[Develop Wiki]] could remain an | *the [[Develop Wiki]] could remain an Anarcopedia-style [[anarchize]]d free-for-all, in keeping with the [[free software]] ideal, so [[anyone can undelete]] in this [[wiki]]. | ||
*[[Research Wiki]] might need to be run more like [[Wikipedia]] with a [[sysop power structure]] or [[bureaucracy]] that must [[refer]] any [[factionally defined term]]s (like "[[trolls]]") and [[defer]] to formal [[faction]] [[representative democracy]] to augment or replace the [[Pointy Haired Boss]] or [[GodKing]] who might still exist for legal reasons - to answer to [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] for ''only'' [[liability]] issues. Unlike [[Wikipedia]] [[power user]]s could not delete the page entirely from view - it would simply be "demoted" to [[development]] status where [[disclaimer]]s would apply; [[page name conflict]] would be resolved in some way that made it instantly obvious one could find the page and so '''undelete''' it by putting it back up as [[research]] | *[[Research Wiki]] might need to be run more like [[Wikipedia]] with a [[sysop power structure]] or [[bureaucracy]] that must [[refer]] any [[factionally defined term]]s (like "[[trolls]]") and [[defer]] to formal [[faction]] [[representative democracy]] to augment or replace the [[Pointy Haired Boss]] or [[GodKing]] who might still exist for legal reasons - to answer to [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] for ''only'' [[liability]] issues. Unlike [[Wikipedia]] [[power user]]s could not delete the page entirely from view - it would simply be "demoted" to [[development]] status where [[disclaimer]]s would apply; [[page name conflict]] would be resolved in some way that made it instantly obvious one could find the page and so '''undelete''' it by putting it back up as [[research]] | ||
*authorized [[Publish Wiki]] users might need an ability to simply [[delete page]]s that are controversially forwarded to it from the [[Research Wiki]] until [[legal counsel]] can clear or vet them - this would not delete the page entirely from view as it would remain visible as [[research]], so again any user could retrieve/restore that and so easily '''undelete page'''s. | *authorized [[Publish Wiki]] users might need an ability to simply [[delete page]]s that are controversially forwarded to it from the [[Research Wiki]] until [[legal counsel]] can clear or vet them - this would not delete the page entirely from view as it would remain visible as [[research]], so again any user could retrieve/restore that and so easily '''undelete page'''s. | ||
It is not clear if a [[one wiki model]] can do this at all or if it could have any policy that would satisfy every [[faction]]. | It is not clear if a [[one wiki model]] can do this at all or if it could have any policy that would satisfy every [[faction]]. | ||