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no way, and now that you've revealed your assumptions, it's easy to say WHY no way can Research Wiki and "opinion" be separated
(right on. time to refactor)
(no way, and now that you've revealed your assumptions, it's easy to say WHY no way can Research Wiki and "opinion" be separated)
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[[Main Page Researcher]], [[Main Page Consumer]] and other gateways to the [[Consumerium Services]] (how many should there be, etc.)
[[Main Page Researcher]], [[Main Page Consumer]] and other gateways to the [[Consumerium Services]] (how many should there be, etc.)


:Consumers see the [[Publish Wiki]] with links to the "Live wikis" which include [[Research Wiki]] which is for researchers and [[Opinion Wiki]] which is for [[campaigner]]s. So why do I still want separate wikis for opinions and facts. It's simply because it makes managing the whole myriad of wikis simpler IMHO and another thing is that it's much simpler to merge two or more wikis then it is to split one wiki up so if it turns out that having separate places for facts and opinions is not a workable idea it won't be much of an hassle to merge the contents if article naming is carefully thought out in advance. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 08:37, 5 Aug 2004 (EEST)
:Consumers see the [[Publish Wiki]] with links to the "Live wikis" which include [[Research Wiki]] which is for researchers and [[Opinion Wiki]] which is for [[campaigner]]s. So why do I still want separate wikis for opinions and facts. It's simply because it makes managing the whole myriad of wikis simpler  
 
::What?  Creating a new and unnecessary one makes things simpler?  Not really.  And there are no [[campaigner]]s who will not claim to be [[researcher]]s and very few [[researcher]]s who are not already [[campaigner]]s for *something*.  So this separation only gives the [[sysop power structure]] an arbitrary way to force people into two groups defined only by a [[GodKing]]'s whims and such, the same way [[sysop]]s are differentiated from [[troll]]s or [[vandal]]s by a divine [[technological escalation]].  This is entirely wrong and chills the whole debate about "What is research" and "what is opinion" which is required to make the whole thing work.
 
IMHO and another thing is that it's much simpler to merge two or more wikis then it is to split one wiki up so if it turns out that having separate places for facts and opinions is not a workable idea it won't be much of an hassle to merge the contents if article naming is carefully thought out in advance. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 08:37, 5 Aug 2004 (EEST)
 
::[[Large public wiki]]s don't seem to have a lot of trouble splitting when they [[fork off]] but I have NEVER seen two of them merge.  This is just wrong.  And since when are [[page name]]s EVER "carefully thought out in advance"?  How many different hierarchical naming schemes have you gone through on YOUR hard drive?  Now multiply that by all the others everyone else has gone through.  These are evolving standards and we need all wisdom on them at once -
 
::differentate [[researcher]] from [[campaigner]] by [[revert currency]] scores and reflect them in article titles, but don't do it by competing name-spaces.
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