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::Sorry. That won't create 100 mirrors in 100 languages. Fact is, Wikipedia put itself at the centre of [[GFDL corpus]] and has used all kinds of bullying and technical tricks to stay there. So it deserves what it gets. | ::Sorry. That won't create 100 mirrors in 100 languages. Fact is, Wikipedia put itself at the centre of [[GFDL corpus]] and has used all kinds of bullying and technical tricks to stay there. So it deserves what it gets. | ||
#persuade all the good editors that your fork is better by using these arguments that you spread around here daily | #persuade all the good editors that your fork is better by using these arguments that you spread around here daily | ||
:::But under [[GFDL]] you have the right to try, so '''try''' or stop complaining that the wrong people are running the most widely known "[[GFDL corpus access provider]]" --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 16:16, 9 Sep 2004 (EEST) | |||
::That won't change the bullying demands of [[Daniel Mayer]], will it? | ::That won't change the bullying demands of [[Daniel Mayer]], will it? | ||
:::What are those in practice? Requiring a link back to [[Wikipedia]] for those [[mirror]]ing/duplicating/[[fork]]ing their [[content]] (ie. content donated to the [[GFDL coprus]] using their [[infrastructural capital|resources]]. I see that requirement to be fully in compliance with the spirit of GFDL since determining who are the five primary contributors for each article is entirely a subjective matter, thus link-back and letting the user view all contributors is the right way to go for the required attribution clause. You must realize that most of the contributors do not reveal their real names thus their identity only exists in the form of being a registered user of Wikipedia. De jure your argumentation is quite right that [[Wikimedia violates GFDL]] but for the sake of sanity why not settle the this is the right way to go in de facto sense even for material in [[Consumerium]]. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 16:16, 9 Sep 2004 (EEST) | |||
#Start a [[TrollMedia|foundation]] to support the [[hardware]] and [[bandwidth]] needs of your fork and make sure it's [[independent board]] consists of people who have no experience, involvement or clue of [[wiki governance]] issues or even what is a wiki or yet even better get some chimps that have never even seen a computer sow you can be certain that you have "an independent board" | #Start a [[TrollMedia|foundation]] to support the [[hardware]] and [[bandwidth]] needs of your fork and make sure it's [[independent board]] consists of people who have no experience, involvement or clue of [[wiki governance]] issues or even what is a wiki or yet even better get some chimps that have never even seen a computer sow you can be certain that you have "an independent board" | ||
::Doesn't take any of this experience to see [[tabloid | ::Doesn't take any of this experience to see [[tabloid journalism]] for what it is. | ||
:::I don't quite follow you. Are you claiming that [[Wikipedia]] is tabloid journalism? | |||
#Code something yourself for once (preferably the worlds best and most scalable [[wiki code]] and give exellent technical support for it) instead of complaining about other people not being clairvoyant and slavishly coding anything and everything you want to be coded | #Code something yourself for once (preferably the worlds best and most scalable [[wiki code]] and give exellent technical support for it) instead of complaining about other people not being clairvoyant and slavishly coding anything and everything you want to be coded | ||
::Why bother when code costs only $5/day to Russia or Kazakhstan? These people who you think deserve respect are nowhere near as good as those who spam for code gigs on the net. Coders are disposable. | ::Why bother when code costs only $5/day to Russia or Kazakhstan? These people who you think deserve respect are nowhere near as good as those who spam for code gigs on the net. Coders are disposable. | ||
:::So use your own cash if you don't have time and stamina to code yourself and hire some of those to implement the [[features]] we need. Especially automatic aggregation of information requires custom code. Or stop whining and dissing those who donate their time and skills to enabling us to use this wonderful wiki software. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 16:16, 9 Sep 2004 (EEST) | |||
#Use the money raised by your foundation to buy google adwords campaign on words [[Wikipedia]], [[Wikimedia]], [[Sysop vandal]] and [[Wikimedia corruption]] | #Use the money raised by your foundation to buy google adwords campaign on words [[Wikipedia]], [[Wikimedia]], [[Sysop vandal]] and [[Wikimedia corruption]] | ||
::Ah, so it's about the google count is it? Well then [[Bomis]] must have some interest. Maybe it wants to SELL those ad words and doesn't like competition? | ::Ah, so it's about the google count is it? Well then [[Bomis]] must have some interest. Maybe it wants to SELL those ad words and doesn't like competition? | ||
:::No. I meant that people who have heard of [[Wikipedia]] might use a search engine to find it and you could get an ad of your fork to show. "Join us instead of those corrupt wikipedians." | |||
#Buy [[Fox news]] with the leftover cash and convert it into your private [[propaganda]] instrument | #Buy [[Fox news]] with the leftover cash and convert it into your private [[propaganda]] instrument | ||
::Violence is a more efficient way to deal with Fox News than any transaction. | ::Violence is a more efficient way to deal with Fox News than any transaction. | ||
:::Violence is never a good solution how ever straightforward it may be in comparison to more peaceful approaches to dealing with what ever pisses you off. You being apparently an intelligent troll would understand that the [[PC]] folk and others who are easily frightened would likely see your above comment as an threat to Fox News or it's staff. IANAL but that imho constitutes an illegal threat so '''please remove it and appologise.''' --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 16:16, 9 Sep 2004 (EEST) | |||
#Sue everyone else for [[libel]]ling you and retain that you don't do [[libel chill]] | #Sue everyone else for [[libel]]ling you and retain that you don't do [[libel chill]] | ||
::Libel chill is only called that when the commentary in question is not libel by legal definitions. Since [[Wikimedia]] publishes real verifiable libel by definitions in use in every [[w:legal code]] in the world, telling them to stop is not libel chill. | ::Libel chill is only called that when the commentary in question is not libel by legal definitions. Since [[Wikimedia]] publishes real verifiable libel by definitions in use in every [[w:legal code]] in the world, telling them to stop is not libel chill. | ||
:::Could you for once provide evidence for your overtly theatrical claims? --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 16:16, 9 Sep 2004 (EEST) | |||
#Have a [[Kit-Kat McFlurry]] | #Have a [[Kit-Kat McFlurry]] | ||
::Thanks! I think I will... mmmmmmm...... | ::Thanks! I think I will... mmmmmmm...... | ||
:::Pls. behave better. Your actions are very much distracting me from focusing on the real pragmatic issues that need to be solved for us to advance and propably you are annouying lot's of other users. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 16:16, 9 Sep 2004 (EEST) | |||