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'''Identity dispute''' arises when '''claimed identity cannot be verified''' ie. that someone is who they are claiming to be '''or''' when anonymous users (anonymous users may in fact be [[trolls]] that frequent the media in question) that '''refuse to take an identity''' thus existing (or perhaps non-existing) in the [[social club]] as non-persons or using [[pseudonyms]]
'''Identity dispute''' arises when '''claimed identity cannot be verified''' ie. that someone is who they are claiming to be '''or''' when anonymous users (anonymous users may in fact be [[trolls]] that frequent the media in question) that '''refuse to take an identity''' thus existing (or perhaps non-existing) in the [[social club]] as non-persons or using [[pseudonyms]]
==Troll point of view==


This can be seen as a subset of a [[political dispute]] in that a political dispute may involve accusations of real or manufactured identity disputes as a form of political battle
This can be seen as a subset of a [[political dispute]] in that a political dispute may involve accusations of real or manufactured identity disputes as a form of political battle
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This is one of many reasons why [[trolls]] advocate ''foment ambiguity'' and not [[use real names]], particularly if ''constant pseudonyms are allowed''.
This is one of many reasons why [[trolls]] advocate ''foment ambiguity'' and not [[use real names]], particularly if ''constant pseudonyms are allowed''.


Probably the most realistic view is that identity and other politics disputes are inevitable and normal and part of language and linguistic relationships.  See [[conceptual metaphor]] for the "green" and [[God's Eye View]] for the "grey" way to settle such debates.  The latter leads to trust in one [[GodKing]].  The former may lead to a greater role for [[trolls]].  There are reasons to avoid either extreme.  It is not good to let trolls totally escape all accountability and it is also not good to let [[outing problem]]s determine who participates.
See [[conceptual metaphor]] for the "green" and [[God's Eye View]] for the "grey" way to settle such debates.  The latter leads to trust in one [[GodKing]].  The former may lead to a greater role for [[trolls]].  There are reasons to avoid either extreme.   
 
==Non-troll point of view==
Probably the most realistic view is that identity and other politics disputes are inevitable and normal and part of language and linguistic relationships, but they have to be contained using some methods such as '''different levels of identification''' ranging from [[anonymous]] users to normal users to verified users.
 
It is not good to let trolls totally escape all accountability and it is also not good to let [[outing|outing problems]] determine who participates in the [[Wikis]]
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