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:hmmh. hmmh. Thanks. True. Aren't developer and designer the same thing in practice? Shouldn't that be the other way around?
:hmmh. hmmh. Thanks. True. Aren't developer and designer the same thing in practice? Shouldn't that be the other way around?
::They're the same only in ''bad'' practice.  Three different roles.  The advocate figures out what's important, the developer responds in code, the designer responds in design and changes to the [[user model]]. 
::Why should the person who chooses the words "Main Page, Recent changes, View discussion", layout and other aspects of the user interface be the same as the person hacking the code?  In general the two skill sets are totally different.  Bad user interfaces like say [[TikiWiki]] come from setting up stupid development cycles where if you can't talk like a developer, you can't be heard about the user interface.  Why do you think Microsoft rules the soft-world?  Because they have Program Managers to design things and mock them up, and Project Managers to deliver them in good debugged code.  There's nothing in common except the "look and feel" between the two jobs.


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