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"In a recent interview, [[Howard Rheingold]] (author of Smart Mobs) discussed the possibility of a 'new economic system' born of 'unconscious cooperation' embodied by such technologies as [[Google]] links and [[Amazon.com]] lists, [[Wikipedia]], [[worn device|wireless device]]s using [[unlicensed spectrum]], [[blog|Web logs]], and [[open source software]]."  [[Trolls]] of course defy this model and are very often accused of conciously cooperating in [[troll organization]]s.
"In a recent interview, [[Howard Rheingold]] (author of Smart Mobs) discussed the possibility of a 'new economic system' born of 'unconscious cooperation' embodied by such technologies as [[Google]] links and [[Amazon.com]] lists, [[Wikipedia]], [[worn device|wireless device]]s using [[unlicensed spectrum]], [[blog|Web logs]], and [[open source software]]."  [[Trolls]] of course defy this model and are very often accused of conciously cooperating in [[troll organization]]s.


"Rheingold speculates that 'the technology of the Internet, [[reputation]] systems, [[online community|online communities, mobile devices...may make some new economic system possible... We had markets, then we had capitalism, and socialism was a reaction to industrial-era capitalism. There's been an assumption that since communism failed, capitalism is triumphant, therefore humans have stopped evolving new systems for economic production.'" - [http://slashdot.org/articles/04/08/17/2138201.shtml?tid=95&tid=1]  That of course is an assumption only of the capitalist elite in countries where all economic development has stalled.  [[Trolls]] continue the development anyway, and would consider this idea that communism "failed" to be, simply, stupidity.  The emergence of the [[Wikipedia Red Faction]] proves it is still very viable.
"Rheingold speculates that 'the technology of the Internet, [[reputation]] systems, [[online community|online communities]], mobile devices...may make some new economic system possible... We had markets, then we had capitalism, and socialism was a reaction to industrial-era capitalism. There's been an assumption that since communism failed, capitalism is triumphant, therefore humans have stopped evolving new systems for economic production.'" - [http://slashdot.org/articles/04/08/17/2138201.shtml?tid=95&tid=1]  That of course is an assumption only of the capitalist elite in countries where all economic development has stalled.  [[Trolls]] continue the development anyway, and would consider this idea that communism "failed" to be, simply, stupidity.  The emergence of the [[Wikipedia Red Faction]] proves it is still very viable.


=== struggle makes society ===
=== struggle makes society ===
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=== favor and barter ===
=== favor and barter ===


Where [[Consumerium Services]] fit into a larger social economy is less clear. [http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com Suw Charman] relates (based on sources[[Business 4Site]] and [[eWeek]]) that "[[Jas Dhillon]], president and CEO of [[ZeroDegrees]] Inc. considers the most important motivator to be the '''favour economy''' - the mutually beneficial nature of online business relationships. However, [[Antony Brydon]], co-founder and CEO of [[Visible Path]] Corp. considers cold, hard cash to be the best incentive." Both would seem to differ from the [[Bomis]] view that [[Wikimedia corruption]] and intense dispute over [[factionally defined]] terms provides the highest profits - for Bomis alone.
Where [[Consumerium Services]] fit into a larger social economy is less clear. [http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com Suw Charman] relates (based on sources[[Business 4Site]] and [[eWeek]]) that "[[Jas Dhillon]], president and CEO of [[ZeroDegrees]] Inc. considers the most important motivator to be the '''favour economy''' - the mutually beneficial nature of online business relationships. However, [[Antony Brydon]], co-founder and CEO of [[Visible Path]] Corp. considers cold, hard cash to be the best incentive."


According to eWeek, Brydon "dismissed the notion that goodwill alone will motivate people to join and become engaged in [[social network]]ing.  �No way,� Brydon said. �The '''favor economy''' is where we started, and we quickly moved to the '''barter economy''' and then the economy economy. It�s an ideological point that will become a real issue for what to do to move things along faster [in this industry].�  How this all relates to [[ecological yield]] and growth in [[natural capital]], only [[trolls]] can say probably.  No doubt they will.
According to eWeek, Brydon "dismissed the notion that goodwill alone will motivate people to join and become engaged in [[social network]]ing.  �No way,� Brydon said. �The '''favor economy''' is where we started, and we quickly moved to the '''barter economy''' and then the economy economy. It�s an ideological point that will become a real issue for what to do to move things along faster [in this industry].�  How this all relates to [[ecological yield]] and growth in [[natural capital]], only [[trolls]] can say probably.  No doubt they will.
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