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Jukeboksi

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 It's been a "Link like hell day"... which is kinda silly since, we're a wiki, we don't need to link every other site linking to each other... we'll you know the phenomenon.
 CHECK OUT: http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/research/corp_critic.htm but remember to come back. Their database has info on 28.000 [[companies]] and their sources are good. They charge <500�/per annum for non-profits for "unlimited" access, with no rights to reproduce the data, but there is this clause in the legal stuff that says that we maybe could get a written agreement to incorporate their abundance of knowledge.
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 Hello your trollishness. Nice to see you are back because I was indeed in a need for a serious kick in the ass as the saying goes. I know I'm lazy so you needn't do that again mkay? How about helping out in figuring out how to govern the [[Content Wiki]] so that it retains a reasonable level of intergrity?
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 ::Thanks!  I think I will... mmmmmmm......
 :::Pls. behave better. Your actions are very much distracting me from focusing on the real pragmatic issues that need to be solved for us to advance and propably you are annouying lot's of other users. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 16:16, 9 Sep 2004 (EEST)
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+===October 27 2005===
+pls take a look at [[Talk:Develop:namespace]]
+From what I recall we always screw up a lot of things when we edit consumerium at the same time with intensity. usually what results is that (at least I don't) we don't really remember what was the "end state" of some issue we so urgently needed to write about
+:OK, agreed, why not focus on [[Talk:Fund Consumerium]] and let things be driven by that, for now?  We have been technology driven long enough, time to start telling [[fair trade]] people what we are doing and want to do next, and, picking a nice [[FAQ]] selection for them to read.
+Hey. Do check out http://www.tiddlywiki.com It's a complete wiki in one [[HTML]] file with the internal logic, GUI logic and logic for saving the file in JavaScript. It termes itself as "a reusable non-linear personal web notebook". The non-linearity part is just what we need, since the pages that are [[publish]]ed to the consumer, must be arranged according to their [[preference]]s (ie. to include the information they are interested in, in the order they want it and to filter out information they don't want to see). I've been testing TiddlyWiki for some time now (I use it to make lecture and reading notes) and I think it'd rock if it would have sync facilities. There are a dozens of modifications of it floating around so maybe there is one somewhere that would sync with a public wiki the public parts of the personal wiki. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 18:54, 27 Aug 2005 (GMT)
+:Maybe.  No one said that [[Publish:namespace]] had to be edited via [[mediawiki]], it may be far better to use [[tikiwiki]] or [[tiddlywiki]] since these have better mechanisms to control output.
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+You've created 7 articles with the pseudo-namespace of "Develop" or talk-pages about articles in the pseudo-namespace. Pls. stop doing this for a while. Every such article has to be moved out of the way in order to change the project-namespace to "Develop:" instead of "Consudev".
+:OK, sorry, fair enough.  Was trying to see whether [[Develop:namespace]] really was hard to explain or track.  Will stop doing this for a while until [[talk:namespace]] and [[talk:categories]] is more settled.  Perhaps this needs to be thought about for a while, like a week, before anything more is done.  Many new options, e.g. [[tiddlywiki]], and many new issues, like the need for Consumerium to [[research:itself]] and [[publish:itself]], and the reasons why [[publish:namespace]] might NOT be a [[large public wiki]] but a much more restricted staging thing for only a very few trusted users, all need to be discussed.  And whether [[link to this page]] is really obsoleted by the [[categories]] and how much to expect a [[wikitext standard]].  Basically a lot of stuff.
+Having the project-namespace be "Develop" does have theoretical consistency, but in practice it just messes up the mental image of the distinction between Develop and other articles. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 19:47, 27 Aug 2005 (GMT)
+:There is an argument to eliminate the [[Research:namespace]] and have that be the main namespace, but, that is contrary to existing practice where in fact everything has been in [[main namespace]] which was acting as [[Develop:namespace]].
+:Not sure how it "messes up the mental image of the distinction between Develop and other articles", though it might make [[Consumerium:Copyrights]] more difficult to understand.
+:Maybe a namespace more generic than "[[Consumerium:]] and more specific than "[[Develop:]]" needs to exist?  Something that indicates the whole [[healthy signal infrastructure]]?  Is there a single verb that describes what the development is doing?  There is actually an argument that the develop wiki should be called signal wiki since it is conveying the [[Consumerium buying signal]], whatever that is, and doing nothing else.
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+slow down or stop for a moment. keeping any track and sense of what you're getting at gets terribly difficult after I fall of the 30-article threshold in the RC and I have to eat and watch the news now
+:OK.  move all the serious content here to [[Talk:namespace]] if we must continue this.
+:But there's probably some major design decisions to make, so don't hurry them.