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One way to control groupthink is to steer it into [[faction]]s that can at least have sharp differences with each other.  In [[democracy]] this means dividing into [[political party]] structures that debate the actual policy while a [[bureaucracy]] implements the policy only of the [[ruling party]].
One way to control groupthink is to steer it into [[faction]]s that can at least have sharp differences with each other.  In [[democracy]] this means dividing into [[political party]] structures that debate the actual policy while a [[bureaucracy]] implements the policy only of the [[ruling party]].
: ''It is doubtable that [[faction]]s are a cure for the groupthink sickness. Groupthink in factions seems worse than in communities because of the need 2 sharpen differences in the competitive situation. -- T2R''
::It only seems worse to morons:  factions are smaller than the larger group they are trying to steer, and since they are forced to accept some rules on how they compete with each other to do that steering, you have more acceptance of reciprocity and equality of factions (trying "insider vs. outsider" for unfair treatment!), and smaller groups that are at least capable of seeing how their biases fit together.
::: Is ''moron'' used as an argument here in this place? Are different opinions not welcome? In competition factions define themselves by a lot of equivalence and a bit of negation. There R very rarely new ideas 2 solve existing problems. T permanent conflict enforces redrawing 2 save territory and 2 avoid attacking T hard problems.
::ok so [[representative democracy]] has problems including bad border choices - yes ''moron'' is used as an argument especially by [[trolls]] who learned it from the [[sysop power structure]] that first called them that.  and this is not a "place" it is a [[wiki]].  Yes different opinions are welcome but you most not expect politeness.
::: Who expects politeness? I expect nothing. U R just hurting yourself. Is taking bad habits from sysops an argument? Will U apply sysop vandalism here, just because U learned it from them? Isn't wiki a place, a public place? Don't U derive your rights from this fact?
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