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Please explain where there is hate speech in here:

Worship your GodKing elsewhere. Wales knows full well there is no case, because every word said here is either clearly an opinion, or provably true. Wales is trying to get you to believe he has a libel case so that he can eventually libel chill all Consumerium Services when they tell the truth about Bomis.

It was in your previous edit. --Juxo 13:54, 26 Jul 2004 (EEST)

Since libel chill is his standard method, are you supposed to be grateful? You can't be sued for libel, as what is said is true, anyway. Don't wallow in the mud to that swine Mr. Wales, he has engaged in plenty of real libel himself. We don't allow outing or spun threats here, so the worst practices just don't happen.

"Swine" is name-calling, not hate speech. The latter is a crime in many countries. The former is not. It was part of a conceptual metaphor re: "wallow" anyway, implying that Mr. Wales wallows plenty himself and ought not to be kowtowed to. It is totally true that he has employed libel chill as a method - he admitted it on his own vile mailing list. And hopefully this is still true:

We don't allow outing or spun threats here, so the worst practices just don't happen.

Trolls are mean and nasty but they recognize the limits of the law and have never actually threatened violence. Meanwhile many people threaten both violence and legal actions that amount to violent suppression, against them - quite a reactionary response to simple name-calling, which is itself quite a limited and fair response to libel.

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 ::It was in your previous edit. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 13:54, 26 Jul 2004 (EEST)
+:Since [[libel chill]] is his standard method, are you supposed to be grateful? You can't be sued for [[libel]], as what is said is true, anyway. Don't wallow in the mud to that swine Mr. Wales, he has engaged in plenty of real [[libel]] himself. We don't allow [[outing]] or [[spun threat]]s here, so the [[worst practices]] just don't happen.
+:::"Swine" is [[name-calling]], not [[hate speech]].  The latter is a crime in many countries.  The former is not.  It was part of a [[conceptual metaphor]] re: "wallow" anyway, implying that Mr. Wales wallows plenty himself and ought not to be kowtowed to.  It is totally true that he has employed [[libel chill]] as a method - he admitted it on his own [[vile mailing list]].  And hopefully this is still true:
+:We don't allow [[outing]] or [[spun threat]]s here, so the [[worst practices]] just don't happen.
+:::[[Trolls]] are mean and nasty but they recognize the limits of the law and have never actually threatened violence.  Meanwhile many people threaten both violence and legal actions that amount to violent suppression, against them - quite a reactionary response to simple [[name-calling]], which is itself quite a limited and fair response to [[libel]].