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for the sake of sanity, wikipedia complies with GFDL as much as is possible - already agreed that it does not do so "de jure", but in the real world getting closer to the letter is not humanlypossible
(the key difference between the three proposed wikis and the main reason to avoid a one wiki model)
 
(for the sake of sanity, wikipedia complies with GFDL as much as is possible - already agreed that it does not do so "de jure", but in the real world getting closer to the letter is not humanlypossible)
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*[[Disinfopedia]] has a strict [[command and control]] structure and its [[chief editor]] is the only one who can authorize an undelete page operation.
*[[Disinfopedia]] has a strict [[command and control]] structure and its [[chief editor]] is the only one who can authorize an undelete page operation.
*[[Wikipedia]] has a mixed structure where the [[sysop power structure]] self-regulates, ineffectively, resulting in the [[sysop vandalism]] and [[sysop vandal point of view]] mostly dominating [[wiki management]] and [[wiki governance]] debate.  Without the power to '''undelete page'''s it becomes difficult or impossible to participate in an [[edit war]] against those who do have it, reinforcing the [[Wikimedia]] [[cabal]]. For instance [[issue]]s like the fact that [[Wikipedia violates GFDL]] are not addressed because they are not allowed to be addressed
*[[Wikipedia]] has a mixed structure where the [[sysop power structure]] self-regulates, ineffectively, resulting in the [[sysop vandalism]] and [[sysop vandal point of view]] mostly dominating [[wiki management]] and [[wiki governance]] debate.  Without the power to '''undelete page'''s it becomes difficult or impossible to participate in an [[edit war]] against those who do have it, reinforcing the [[Wikimedia]] [[cabal]].
 
*[[Anarchopedia]] distributes the power to '''undelete page'''s to all users, so that there is effectively no [[sysop power structure]] at all;  [[ad hominem delete]] is this only very slightly more powerful than [[ad hominem revert]] as a means of curtailing debate, and no user can actually gain much power over any other in an [[edit war]].
*[[Anarchopedia]] distributes the power to '''undelete page'''s to all users, so that there is effectively no [[sysop power structure]] at all;  [[ad hominem delete]] is this only very slightly more powerful than [[ad hominem revert]] as a means of curtailing debate, and no user can actually gain much power over any other in an [[edit war]].


It is very likely that [[Consumerium Services]] would adopt vey different policies for each of its [[Wikis]].  For instance:
It is very likely that [[Consumerium Services]] would adopt very different policies for each of its [[Wikis]].  For instance:
*the [[Develop Wiki]] could remain an Anarchopedia-style [[anarchize]]d free-for-all, in keeping with the [[free software]] ideal, so [[anyone can undelete]] in this [[wiki]].
*the [[Develop Wiki]] could remain an Anarchopedia-style [[anarchize]]d free-for-all, in keeping with the [[free software]] ideal, so [[anyone can undelete]] in this [[wiki]].
*[[Research Wiki]] might need to be run more like [[Wikipedia]] with a [[sysop power structure]] or [[bureaucracy]] that must [[refer]] any [[factionally defined term]]s (like "[[trolls]]") and [[defer]] to formal [[faction]] [[representative democracy]] to augment or replace the [[Pointy Haired Boss]] or [[GodKing]] who might still exist for legal reasons - to answer to [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] for ''only'' [[liability]] issues.  Unlike [[Wikipedia]] [[power user]]s could not delete the page entirely from view - it would simply be "demoted" to [[development]] status where [[disclaimer]]s would apply;  [[page name conflict]] would be resolved in some way that made it instantly obvious one could find the page and so '''undelete''' it by putting it back up as [[research]]
*[[Research Wiki]] might need to be run more like [[Wikipedia]] with a [[sysop power structure]] or [[bureaucracy]] that must [[refer]] any [[factionally defined term]]s (like "[[trolls]]") and [[defer]] to formal [[faction]] [[representative democracy]] to augment or replace the [[Pointy Haired Boss]] or [[GodKing]] who might still exist for legal reasons - to answer to [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] for ''only'' [[liability]] issues.  Unlike [[Wikipedia]] [[power user]]s could not delete the page entirely from view - it would simply be "demoted" to [[development]] status where [[disclaimer]]s would apply;  [[page name conflict]] would be resolved in some way that made it instantly obvious one could find the page and so '''undelete''' it by putting it back up as [[research]]
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