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(there is no motivation whatsoever for any reasonable person to talk to or contact Wales - and every motivation to disenfranchise him - the libel chill is plain as day, as are other legal ultimatum) |
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::"honestly and simply raising the issues with me in an appropriate manner" is actually not possible since Wales has a policy of [[outing]] those who offer any criticism, and actually attaching bogus labels to their names like for instance "criminal" or "liar". | ::"honestly and simply raising the issues with me in an appropriate manner" is actually not possible since Wales has a policy of [[outing]] those who offer any criticism, and actually attaching bogus labels to their names like for instance "criminal" or "liar". | ||
:"...to finally take legal action to permanently ban them from the website, as well as providing an opportunity for me to file a libel claim against him. " | :::This maybe so but most of us are accustomed to dealing with people who reveal their identity when raising concerns, like me. People who remain anonymous aren't as convincing as those who are exposing themselves by being '''[[body|some body]]'''. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 17:37, 14 Sep 2004 (EEST) | ||
::Besides no one needs to discuss the [[GFDL]] with Wales, or ask his interpretation of it - he is not a lawyer and is not qualified to say what is reasonable interpretation, and with a pet board, he is certainly not committed to actually asking [[independent board]] opinions of any matter - so the upside of talking to him is zero, the downside considerable, and the [[trolls]] are doing the right thing to just continue to ignore him as much as they can and make note of all his legal errors for later eradication of [[Wikimedia]] in court. | |||
:::Actually if you think that Wikimedia is in violation of [[GFDL]] you should speak to them about it, not just try to intimidate with assumably false threats of [[Class action suit]], [[Suing for funding]] and other crap that really really is not the consumerium way of trying to make things better. I mean that I understand that the lawyers in the US profit the most from the silly legistlation that allows all sorts of anti-common-sense-cases to actually go to court or seem likely enough to go to court that it affects people's behaviour --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 17:37, 14 Sep 2004 (EEST) | |||
::There is no reason in the world to have any conversation with this guy, and still less given this: | |||
:::I actually sorta enjoy debating with him about economic systems and such. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 17:37, 14 Sep 2004 (EEST) | |||
::"...to finally take legal action to permanently ban them from the website, as well as providing an opportunity for me to file a libel claim against him. " | |||
::[[libel chill]] of the plainest sort, and a clear message: 'complain to me or any authority directly, and you can expect court orders issued against you once I have your name on paper' | ::[[libel chill]] of the plainest sort, and a clear message: 'complain to me or any authority directly, and you can expect court orders issued against you once I have your name on paper' | ||
::the above says all it needs to say, and proves autocratic [[GodKing]] behaviour and total contempt for [[open content]] or its quality or completeness | ::the above says all it needs to say, and proves autocratic [[GodKing]] behaviour and total contempt for [[open content]] or its quality or completeness | ||
:::[[Libel chill]] alright, but one interesting point that escaped you is that Jimbo refers to "ban '''them'''", but "file a libel claim against '''him'''" This might indicate that he has some understanding for the [[trollist]] ideology and usefullness of [[trolling]]. Not that I claim that as a fact. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 17:37, 14 Sep 2004 (EEST)~ | |||