Subject-object problem: Difference between revisions

cutting back to simple definition of "objectification" which is done so often by Wikimedia corruption and Bomis as to absolutely require a definition - this definition is exactly the one in w:
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From ''[[w:subject-object problem|en: Wikipedia: subject-object problem]]:''
From ''[[w:subject-object problem|en: Wikipedia: subject-object problem]]:''


In ethics, social science and linguistics, the '''subject-object problem''' is a deliberate [[power grab]] or unintentional "confusion resulting from a shifting, inconsistent or vague assignment of observer and observed, active and passive, status in a sentence. Depending on how one views language, and [[w:mathematics as a langauge|mathematics as a language]], this confusion may extend quite deeply into philosophy of all kinds including that of [[law]], [[science]] and [http://wikinfo.org/wiki.php?title=mathematics mathematics itself].
"In ethics, social science and linguistics, the '''subject-object problem''' is a deliberate [[power grab]] or unintentional "confusion resulting from a shifting, inconsistent or vague assignment of observer and observed, active and passive, status in a sentence. Depending on how one views language, and [[w:mathematics as a langauge|mathematics as a language]], this confusion may extend quite deeply into philosophy of all kinds including that of [[law]], [[science]] and [http://wikinfo.org/wiki.php?title=mathematics mathematics itself].


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A closely related power issue in ethics, sociology and philosophy of science is that of '''the other''', that being, an entity or [[group entity]] which is always treated as an object, assuming oneself or "those like oneself" as the subject. In making such a universal assignment of object status, a group such as slaves, women, psychiatric patients, workers, foreigners, (editor adds:  [[trolls]]) or debtors can be assigned some subordinate status by use of language. The master, man, clinician, employer, citizen, (editor adds: [[sysop]]), creditor, respectively, can legally (using force) assume some power for the other, and speak for them in the same manner as the fictional literary omniscient narrator."
A closely related power issue in ethics, sociology and philosophy of science is that of '''the other''', that being, an entity or [[group entity]] which is always treated as an object, assuming oneself or "those like oneself" as the subject. In making such a universal assignment of object status, a group such as slaves, women, psychiatric patients, workers, foreigners, (editor adds:  [[trolls]]) or debtors can be assigned some subordinate status by use of language. The master, man, clinician, employer, citizen, (editor adds: [[sysop]]), creditor, respectively, can legally (using force) assume some power for the other, and speak for them in the same manner as the fictional literary omniscient narrator."
Thus '''objectification''' including '''sexual objectication''' is a matter of reducing a person into a position of always being perceived, never perceiving.
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