MediaWiki: Difference between revisions

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(As of version 1.3.3 MediaWiki supports any number of additional namespaces, which is very good for us. Now we can have namespaces for companies, products etc. )
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Therefore its use at present is really just a test, and to make it easier to collate text from other [[GFDL]] services, most of which also use mediawiki.  [[Consumerium developers]] will have to make their choices based also on the constraints the [[Consumerium License]] might place on using [[GPL]]'d code.  This might not be an issue, or it might be a huge issue, we just don't know.  The [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2004-April/000005.html MediaWiki 1.3 release] is now available and should be compared to [[GetWiki]].
Therefore its use at present is really just a test, and to make it easier to collate text from other [[GFDL]] services, most of which also use mediawiki.  [[Consumerium developers]] will have to make their choices based also on the constraints the [[Consumerium License]] might place on using [[GPL]]'d code.  This might not be an issue, or it might be a huge issue, we just don't know.  The [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2004-April/000005.html MediaWiki 1.3 release] is now available and should be compared to [[GetWiki]].


:The main difference is that MediaWiki 1.3 has a crippled [[XML import]] that is available only to the [[sysop power structure]].  This seems to be a ploy to kill off GetWiki, after which support for this feature, which makes it easy to [[fork off]] with the [[GFDL Corpus]], will probably be withdrawn or limited or "bugged up" to make it useless.  There is no incentive, once GetWiki dies, for MediaWiki's developers (who are involved with [[Wikimedia]]) to support an XML-based fork.  Some, such as [[Tim Starling]], have engaged in activities that strongly suggest that they deliberately offer tools such as [[vandalbot]]s to those who attack such services, e.g. some claim this was done to [[Recyclopedia]].  Accordingly it may be better to stick to GetWiki just to have a hedge against the [[sysop power structure]] controlling Mediawiki code.
:The main difference is that MediaWiki 1.3 has a [[XML import]] that is available only to the [[sysop power structure]].  This seems to 142.177.X.X to be a ploy to kill off GetWiki, after which support for this feature, which makes it easy to [[fork off]] with the [[GFDL Corpus]], will probably (in the opinion of 142.177.X.X) be withdrawn or limited or "bugged up" to make it useless.  There is no incentive, (in the opinion of 142.177.X.X) once GetWiki dies, for MediaWiki's developers (some of whom are involved with [[Wikimedia]]) to support an XML-based fork.  Some, such as [[Tim Starling]], have engaged in activities that strongly suggest (in the opinion of 142.177.X.X) that they deliberately offer tools such as [[vandalbot]]s to those who attack such services, e.g. 142.177.X.X claims this was done to [[Recyclopedia]].  Accordingly it may be better (in the opinion of 142.177.X.X) to stick to GetWiki just to have a hedge against the [[sysop power structure]], which in the opinion of 142.177.X.X controls Mediawiki code.


The long term choices of [[wiki code]] and its integration with other code are things the [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] will decide, and this [[Development Wiki]] is here to discuss.  As part of [[reflexive design]], we will generally use the tools we are trying to test, before deciding to use them.  This will often bias [[sysop]]s and others in favour of what is in use now!  We should be very aware of this [[systemic bias]].
The long term choices of [[wiki code]] and its integration with other code are things the [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] will decide, and this [[Development Wiki]] is here to discuss.  As part of [[reflexive design]], we will generally use the tools we are trying to test, before deciding to use them.  This will often bias [[sysop]]s and others in favour of what is in use now!  We should be very aware of this [[systemic bias]].
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