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A '''Consumerium Research pilot''' would build an actual [[Research Wiki]] [[prototype]] with real [[intermediate page]]s describing real companies and their mis/behaviour.  It would focus deliberately only on the worst behaviour by the most litigous companies, as a test of policies.  If the '''pilot''' were to pass the scrutiny of lawyers for [[McDonald's]] and [[Monsanto]] and [[Disney]] (well known as the world's meanest!) and so on, it would be fairly likely that lawyers of other firms would have to lave us alone.
A '''Consumerium Research pilot''' would build an actual [[Research Wiki]] [[prototype]] with real [[intermediate page]]s describing real companies and their mis/behaviour.  It would focus deliberately only on the worst behaviour by the most litigious companies, as a test of policies.  If the '''pilot''' were to pass the scrutiny of lawyers for [[McDonald's]] and [[Monsanto]] and [[Disney]] (well known as the world's meanest!) and so on, it would be fairly likely that lawyers of other firms would have to lave us alone.


Such a focused '''pilot''' that deliberately sought to gain both publicity and a meaningful test of how tough and sue-proof we can make our policies, would stress organizational issues central to [[Consumerium Governance Organization]].  We would identify the potential for being sued for [[diluting the trademark]], [[libel chill]], other more fatuous basis for [[lawsuit]]s and other potential problems.  At the very least we'd learn to process a [[cease and desist letter]] and send a polite response threatening total [[troll war]] against companies that lie about [[Consumerium]], followed by [[suing for funding]].
Such a focused '''pilot''' that deliberately sought to gain both publicity and a meaningful test of how tough and sue-proof we can make our policies, would stress organizational issues central to [[Consumerium Governance Organization]].  We would identify the potential for being sued for [[diluting the trademark]], [[libel chill]], other more fatuous basis for [[lawsuit]]s and other potential problems.  At the very least we'd learn to process a [[cease and desist letter]] and send a polite response threatening total [[troll war]] against companies that lie about [[Consumerium]]


In such [[pilot]] projects, often the users are chosen specifically to be difficult to support, if the anticipated issue of deployment is the variety of users, i.e. [[trolls]] especially [[funded troll]]s, in [[Research Wiki]] and in [[Consumerium Governance Organization]], and [[sysop vandalism]] advocates.  In September 2004, [[Alleged and collective identity|supposed advocates]] of the [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] seem to be republishing writings from that POV, e.g. the [[Craig Hubley]] article.  In some cases they have also indicated an interested in learning about [[trolling]] and declared it "fun".  This is all possibly a positive sign that at least some alleged [[sysop vandal]]s (their [[alleged and collective identity|true self-identification]] remains unknown) can turn their hate towards companies or people that really deserve it, e.g. [[Gus Kouwenhoven]] rather than some [[trollherd]].
In such [[pilot]] projects, often the users are chosen specifically to be difficult to support, if the anticipated issue of deployment is the variety of users, i.e. [[trolls]] especially [[funded troll]]s, in [[Research Wiki]] and in [[Consumerium Governance Organization]], and [[sysop vandalism]] advocates.  In September 2004, [[Alleged and collective identity|supposed advocates]] of the [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] seem to be republishing writings from that POV, e.g. the [[Craig Hubley]] article.  In some cases they have also indicated an interest in learning about [[trolling]] and declared it "fun".  This is all possibly a positive sign that at least some alleged [[sysop vandal]]s (their [[alleged and collective identity|true self-identification]] remains unknown) can turn their hate towards companies or people that really deserve it, e.g. [[Gus Kouwenhoven]] rather than some [[trollherd]].


To test the extent of these conflicts and the [[tit for tat]] tactics they engender, we need an actual [[Research Wiki]] up and running;  One with real [[intermediate page]]s that [[Consumerium:We|we]] can fight about.  Elements of this '''pilot''' include:
To test the extent of these conflicts and the [[tit for tat]] tactics they engender, we need an actual [[Research Wiki]] up and running;  One with real [[intermediate page]]s that [[Consumerium:We|we]] can fight about.  Elements of this '''pilot''' include:
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*identification of [[worst practices]] and the garbage that imports them to a [[large public wiki]], fair ways to ensure these people are [[driven off by trolls]] before they can engage in [[vandalism]] of subtle or sysop character - see [[talk:sysop vandalism]] for a list of known advocates and engagers in this
*identification of [[worst practices]] and the garbage that imports them to a [[large public wiki]], fair ways to ensure these people are [[driven off by trolls]] before they can engage in [[vandalism]] of subtle or sysop character - see [[talk:sysop vandalism]] for a list of known advocates and engagers in this


[[funding]] and [[diligence]]:
[[diligence]]:


*writing [[cease and desist]] letters to those who defame [[Consumerium:Itself]] as a prelude to:
*writing [[cease and desist]] letters to those who defame [[Consumerium:Itself]]
*beginning a [[self-funding]] process of suing those who lie about Consumerium, to fund [[Consumerium Services]] - starting with [[Wikimedia]] or [[Bomis]] though they are not ideal targets for [[suing for funding]] in the longer run.


One output of such a pilot would be a decision whether to [[end Wikimedia]] or work to an [[negotiated settlement between trolls and Wikimedia]] regarding who controls the [[GFDL corpus]] and to what standards [[GFDL]] content will be held.  For instance a fixed fee might be charged for every lie about Consumerium or its contributors that is published via [[Wikimedia]] forums.  In return, [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] would agree not to sue for more damages.
One output of such a pilot would be a decision whether to [[end Wikimedia]] or work to an [[negotiated settlement between trolls and Wikimedia]] regarding who controls the [[GFDL corpus]] and to what standards [[GFDL]] content will be held.  For instance a fixed fee might be charged for every lie about Consumerium or its contributors that is published via [[Wikimedia]] forums.  In return, [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] would agree not to sue for more damages.
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