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point stands - censoring debate with non-English native speakers is incompatible with Consumerium's goals, and refusing to let them learn terms relevant to that, makes a project hostile, as the SEW is
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::::Try http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/contact%20network. Still there! [[User:Angela|Angela]] 06:48, 13 Jan 2004 (EET) | ::::Try http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/contact%20network. Still there! [[User:Angela|Angela]] 06:48, 13 Jan 2004 (EET) | ||
:::::The point stands. If those who are 'linguistically inferior' to you English-speaking imperialists cannot discuss such notions as a [[social network]] or [[power network]] without censorship or being targetted as a "vandal" (a word that Tim Starling throws around as if he wasn't one himself), then, the SEW remains a very poor place for us to send Consumerium contributors. While Angela would like nothing better than for her to use the SEW as her own [[contact network]] and [[creative network]], enslaving the SEW to her whims and her limited comprehension, this is incompatible with our own values here. We must discuss [[social network]]s and [[power network]]s with those who do not share much language with us, else, we will not end up with a very fair picture of the activity of corporations in, say, the developing world. We also wish those who understand these concepts as real to be very encouraged and heartened by our projects, not censored, told they are "vandals" and treated imperialistically as they are on the SEW under Angela's regime. We advocate regime change at SEW as much as at Wikimedia, for the saem reasons. | |||
::They raised some [[IP block]]s, but, they'll probably block 'em again as soon as a personal friend of the [[GodKing]] is offended, and they simply don't have a real workable definition of [[Simple English]] that would serve the purposes they claim to serve. So now I recommend we work only on our own [[glossary]], and if they want to nab some text, fine, let 'em, its all [[GFDL]] anyway. It would have been nice to be able to fully define something at the SEW and then refer only to a more focused definition here, but, that is just not reliable with the present [[sysop power structure]] there, even if it's slightly less oppressive than it was yesterday. | ::They raised some [[IP block]]s, but, they'll probably block 'em again as soon as a personal friend of the [[GodKing]] is offended, and they simply don't have a real workable definition of [[Simple English]] that would serve the purposes they claim to serve. So now I recommend we work only on our own [[glossary]], and if they want to nab some text, fine, let 'em, its all [[GFDL]] anyway. It would have been nice to be able to fully define something at the SEW and then refer only to a more focused definition here, but, that is just not reliable with the present [[sysop power structure]] there, even if it's slightly less oppressive than it was yesterday. | ||
:::False alarm. THey have actually deliberately blocked entire ISPs in an attempt not to hear things they don't like, but which are provably true. So they are worse than before, actually. A small clique rules those projects. It is no longer the inclusive project it was, and we should assist instead those who seek [[m:regime change]], such as David F. Prenatt. | |||
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