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    Attitudes to '''troll vandalism''' ([[group vandalism]] by [[trolls]] to counter [[sysop vandalism]] or to advance a [[POV]] that they believe is underrepresented by some [[systemic bias]] in [[neutral point of view]]) vary as much as attitudes to [[w:terrorism]] or [[w:insurgent]] activities.
    Attitudes to '''troll vandalism''' ([[group vandalism]] by [[trolls]] to counter [[sysop vandalism]] or to advance a [[POV]] that they believe is underrepresented by some [[systemic bias]] in [[neutral point of view]]) vary as much as attitudes to [[w:terrorism]] or [[w:insurgent]] activities.
    == are sysops trolls? ==


    One major question is whether [[sysop vandalism]] is actually '''troll vandalism''' - whether [[sysops are trolls]] or (as claimed in [[New Troll point of view]]) the sysops' use of [[technological escalation]] makes them deserve what they get and denies them the protections that [[trolls]] deserve.
    One major question is whether [[sysop vandalism]] is actually '''troll vandalism''' - whether [[sysops are trolls]] or (as claimed in [[New Troll point of view]]) the sysops' use of [[technological escalation]] makes them deserve what they get and denies them the protections that [[trolls]] deserve.


    The [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] is that '''troll vandalism''' is just [[group vandalism]] and (of course) that [[sysop]]s cannot be [[vandal]]s simply for opposing it even with [[technological escalation]].  See [[Recyclopedia]] and SOLLOG for typically controversial cases where this is at issue.
    The [[Sysop Vandal point of view]] is that '''troll vandalism''' is just [[group vandalism]] and (of course) that [[sysop]]s cannot be [[vandal]]s simply for opposing it even with [[technological escalation]].  See [[Recyclopedia]] and [[SOLLOG]] for typically controversial cases where these distinctions are at issue.
     
    == use of technological escalation ==
     
    In the [[SOLLOG]] case, it is not clear if [[wikipediasucks.com]] actually has engaged in [[vandalbot]] design or other [[technological escalation]].  If his then the pro-SOLLOG forces have become their own [[sysop power structure]] and their struggle with the sysops is no longer a [[troll-sysop struggle]] nor a [[troll war]] between those with [[equal power relationship]]s, but rather, a simple [[arms race]] between two groups using [[sysop vandalism]].  In that case, neither would be any morally superior to the other, they would just be two groups using different technology, at the same moral level.


    In the [[SOLLOG]] case, it is not clear if [[wikipediasucks.com]] actually has engaged in [[vandalbot]] design or other [[technological escalation]].  If his then the pro-SOLLOG forces have become their own [[sysop power structure]] and their struggle with the sysops is no longer a [[troll-sysop struggle]] nor a [[troll war]] between those with [[equal power relationship]]s, but rather, a simple [[arms race]] between two groups using [[sysop vandalism]].
    Probably how one views this depends on your [[faction]].