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-A problem on [[large public wiki]]s full of [[troll]]s from all [[faction]]s.  Usually characterized by a large number of [[revert duel]]s going on everywhere.
+The outbreak of '''troll war''' is a problem on [[large public wiki]]s full of [[troll]]s from all [[faction]]s.  Usually characterized by a large number of [[revert duel]]s going on everywhere.
+The purpose of a troll war seems to simply be for one [[faction]] to achieve dominance over another.  It makes no reference to any single external [[w:ethical code]].
 See [[w:Wikipedia:troll_war]] for policy suggestions that may also apply here.
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-===Dedicated troll war===
-A '''dedicated troll war''' is a [[troll organization|well-organized]] attempt to [[driven off by trolls|drive off]] a particular user permanently from all wikis frequented by [[trolls]].  Usually it is only against deeply offensive people clearly guilty of [[libel]] and persistent [[sysop vandalism]] justified only by [[amateur psychiatry]] and [[echo chamber]] lies.  One such '''dedicated war''' was against [[Erik Moeller]].  However, [[Larry Sanger]], the first chief editor of [[Wikipedia]], claimed that such deliberate activity was responsible for his permanent departure from all [[Wikimedia]] projects - this was probably false, as there were many other reasons, mostly economic, for him to depart in disgrace.
+===troll jihad===
+''This is the actual term that has been used by real [[trolls]] probably in an attempt to upset anti-[[w:Islam]] bigots and confuse them into making stupid mistakes or making obviously racist statements.  [[Consumerium]] takes no position on the desirability of using the term [[w:jihad]] to describe such an effort, but notes that it would be at best a Lesser Jihad, not a Greater Jihad, in the terms applied in [[w:Islam]], and so this use of terminology might well be offensive.  We report it here only to better understand [[trolling]] itself.''
+A '''troll jihad''' is an openly declared [[troll organization|well-organized]] attempt to [[driven off by trolls|drive off]] a particular user permanently from all wikis frequented by [[trolls]].
+It is a rare move undertaken only against deeply offensive people clearly guilty of actual crimes and specific [[open content license]] violations, not just offending people's feelings.  Some [[w:Ethical code]] might well be involved though most [[trolls]] do not explicitly claim to subscribe to any one such code, only some vague right to exist and advance opinions unharassed by [[sysop power structure]].
+Actual targets of such activity seem to be those guilty of [[libel]] and persistent [[sysop vandalism]] justified only by [[amateur psychiatry]] and [[echo chamber]] lies.  One such '''troll jihad''' declaration was against [[Erik Moeller]], who often attempts [[outing]], and has advocated [[developer vigilantiism]] and encyclopedia-damaging activities to harass his many enemies.
+[[Larry Sanger]], the first chief editor of [[Wikipedia]] (and never a sysop - he did not have or did not use the power to [[IP block]] himself) claimed that similarly deliberate troll activity was responsible for his permanent departure from all [[Wikimedia]] projects - this was probably false, as there were many other reasons, mostly economic, for him to depart in disgrace.