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A '''~~preferences~~''' ~~filter enables~~ a ~~consumer to specify what information s/he wishes to view and in what order in each case. Having scanned the [[RFID]]'s of the products available in~~ a ~~particular store, the consumer would like to~~

A '''WikiVote''' is just a vote taken via a wiki. Some issues:

~~filter these before attempting to select from them~~.

~~For example~~:

* can you change a vote after you make it?

* ~~I want~~ to ~~filter products/services~~ by ~~supplier's eco-region~~, so ~~I may shop locally~~.

::Sure. You can remove your vote simply by removing it from your [[User:UserName/MyVotes]] page perhaps to switch to support an another more credible, better-argued campaign.

* ~~I want~~ to ~~select from among the more ecologically safe~~, ~~more socially moral products~~.

* ~~I want to see only products/services that are approved~~ by ~~any two~~ of my [[~~trusted auditor~~]]'s.

* which [[w:voting system]] should you use? for what purposes?

::The question is already answered elsewhere, though disagreeing views are welcome. The current proposition is a one-to-one vote: You have one WikiVote per issue. A more interesting question is how and by who is defined what is an "issue". Obivious issues are a [[company]], a [[brand]], a [[product]] and a [[product group]] so we should start with these basics and then expand.

~~There is a problem~~ of ~~keeping consumer personal preferences safe~~. ~~Proposed ideas have included:~~

* Store the data encrypted and ~~give~~ the ~~key only~~ to the ~~consumer~~. ~~This way~~ the ~~data persists in~~ the ~~network and can be made available~~ for ~~server side processing (quite necessary for plain XHTML UI~~) ~~and disposed~~ of ~~after the consumer has left the network~~.

**See [[m:TIPAESA]] for an outline of a typical issue position argument structure. Presumably something can't be a [[Consumerium:issue]] until it has had some time to be elaborated, if this is to be a [[w:deliberative democracy]].

* ~~Store the data within the Consumer Agent residing~~ in the ~~consumers personal mobile terminal~~. ~~The consumer agent~~ can ~~then give snipplets~~ of the ~~preferences and other data~~ to the ~~network~~ on a on~~-demand basis~~.

* ~~Store~~ the ~~data on a smart card carried by the consumer~~, and ~~available~~ to ~~him on demand anywhere.~~

* how is [[w:user authentication]] performed? By just accounts and passwords, or by IP number, or what?

::The existence of multiple levels of authentication is the basic approach, but the details are yet quite open.

:::This could be [[factionally defined]] if there is a way for [[faction]]s to register [[distrust]] in each other's methods and reduce their power if a [[Consumerium:audit]] shows them abusing proxies or something. Make them compete to create invincible systems of authentication, or none, as long as they dont claim to speak for [[individual buying criteria]] that they don't speak for.

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= Old obsoleted plans =

The voting pages are most obviously "noindex, nofollow" ( stops search engines from indexing ) and furthermore copyright of the wiki user i.e. '''not copylefted'''. If someone wants to publish vote sets in another namespace this surely will be allowed or even recommended. ( If NGOs want to publish vote sets it's sort of the revival of the [[indirect vote]]. )

''See [[edits, votes and bets]] for the debate about how to decide the final

[[Consumerium buying signal]].''

Some basic paradigms have been suggested to measure the support of [[campaigns]]:

*[[Direct Vote]] requires many votes and rewards heavy participation, and,

*[[Indirect Vote]] requires fewer votes and rewards [[faction]] organization

*and the oddly-named [[WikiVote]] which seems to overlap with both of them

==To vote or not to vote?==

The Policy on Consumerium is that '''voting''' is discouraged for various reasons.

#) By voting you open up yourself to severe consumption pattern profiling. Please consider [[not using real name]] if you intend to vote.

#) We don't want any sorts of census effect à la facebook. So please, srsly, don't vote.

#) Voting is unwiki

#) ...

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==Planned onwiki vote structure==

*[[User:Username/My representational vote]] (i.e. proxy or [[Indirect Vote]], this is probably not used at all in the end)

*[[User:Username/Boycotts]]

*[[User:Username/Avoids]]

*[[User:Username/Supports]]

*[[User:Username/Recommends]]

*[[User:Username/Hedges]]

*[[User:Username/Hedges heavily]]

Use following syntax (vote only once on each "thing")

*[[Company X]]

*[[Country X]]

*[[Product group X]]

*...

One can add any number of reasons by prefixing like this (you can intermix commas with "and"s so don't worry about that.

'''[[Company X]] for [[Reason 1]], [[Reason 2]] and [[Reason 3]]'''

in the above articles to cast your votes. Vote only once on one thing

==Voting in the future==

In the future you can use one line to vote on multiple entities on one line.

*[[User:Username/Prefers]]

*[[User:Username/Prefers strongly]]

All votables that are before the keyword '''over''' gets voted up and every votable after that gets voted down.

*Prefers [[X]] over [[Y]] results in +1 and -1 respectively

*Strongly prefers [[X]] and [[Y]] over Z results in +2, +2 and -2 respectively

* Strongly prefers [[Product X]] and [[Product Y]] over [[Product Z]] <for [[reason 1]]>

etc.etc.

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==What's this I keep hearing about a dual voting system?==

[[Indirect Vote]]s probably won't be implemented due to lack of interest

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-A '''preferences''' filter enables a consumer to specify what information s/he wishes to view and in what order in each case. Having scanned the [[RFID]]'s of the products available in a particular store, the consumer would like to
+A '''WikiVote''' is just a vote taken via a wiki.  Some issues:
-filter these before attempting to select from them.
-For example:
+* can you change a vote after you make it?
-* I want to filter products/services by supplier's eco-region, so I may shop locally.
+::Sure. You can remove your vote simply by removing it from your [[User:UserName/MyVotes]] page perhaps to switch to support an another more credible, better-argued campaign.
-* I want to select from among the more ecologically safe, more socially moral products.
-* I want to see only products/services that are approved by any two of my [[trusted auditor]]'s.
+* which [[w:voting system]] should you use?  for what purposes?
+::The question is already answered elsewhere, though disagreeing views are welcome. The current proposition is a one-to-one vote: You have one WikiVote per issue. A more interesting question is how and by who is defined what is an "issue". Obivious issues are a [[company]], a [[brand]], a [[product]] and a [[product group]] so we should start with these basics and then expand.
-There is a problem of keeping consumer personal preferences safe. Proposed ideas have included:
-* Store the data encrypted and give the key only to the consumer. This way the data persists in the network and can be made available for server side processing (quite necessary for plain XHTML UI) and disposed of after the consumer has left the network.
+**See [[m:TIPAESA]] for an outline of a typical issue position argument structure.  Presumably something can't be a [[Consumerium:issue]] until it has had some time to be elaborated, if this is to be a [[w:deliberative democracy]].
-* Store the data within the Consumer Agent residing in the consumers personal mobile terminal. The consumer agent can then give snipplets of the preferences and other data to the network on a on-demand basis.
-* Store the data on a smart card carried by the consumer, and available to him on demand anywhere.
+* how is [[w:user authentication]] performed?  By just accounts and passwords, or by IP number, or what?
+::The existence of multiple levels of authentication is the basic approach, but the details are yet quite open.
+:::This could be [[factionally defined]] if there is a way for [[faction]]s to register [[distrust]] in each other's methods and reduce their power if a [[Consumerium:audit]] shows them abusing proxies or something.  Make them compete to create invincible systems of authentication, or none, as long as they dont claim to speak for [[individual buying criteria]] that they don't speak for.
+----
+= Old obsoleted plans =
+The voting pages are most obviously "noindex, nofollow" ( stops search engines from indexing ) and furthermore copyright of the wiki user i.e. '''not copylefted'''. If someone wants to publish vote sets in another namespace this surely will be allowed or even recommended. ( If NGOs want to publish vote sets it's sort of the revival of the [[indirect vote]]. )
+''See [[edits, votes and bets]] for the debate about how to decide the final
+[[Consumerium buying signal]].''
+Some basic paradigms have been suggested to measure the support of [[campaigns]]:
+*[[Direct Vote]] requires many votes and rewards heavy participation, and,
+*[[Indirect Vote]] requires fewer votes and rewards [[faction]] organization
+*and the oddly-named [[WikiVote]] which seems to overlap with both of them
+==To vote or not to vote?==
+The Policy on Consumerium is that '''voting''' is discouraged for various reasons.
+#) By voting you open up yourself to severe consumption pattern profiling. Please consider [[not using real name]] if you intend to vote.
+#) We don't want any sorts of census effect à la facebook. So please, srsly, don't vote.
+#) Voting is unwiki
+#) ...
+----
+==Planned onwiki vote structure==
+*[[User:Username/My representational vote]] (i.e. proxy or [[Indirect Vote]], this is probably not used at all in the end)
+*[[User:Username/Boycotts]]
+*[[User:Username/Avoids]]
+*[[User:Username/Supports]]
+*[[User:Username/Recommends]]
+*[[User:Username/Hedges]]
+*[[User:Username/Hedges heavily]]
+Use following syntax (vote only once on each "thing")
+*[[Company X]]
+*[[Country X]]
+*[[Product group X]]
+*...
+One can add any number of reasons by prefixing like this (you can intermix commas with "and"s so don't worry about that.
+'''[[Company X]] for [[Reason 1]], [[Reason 2]] and [[Reason 3]]'''
+in the above articles to cast your votes. Vote only once on one thing
+==Voting in the future==
+In the future you can use one line to vote on multiple entities on one line.
+*[[User:Username/Prefers]]
+*[[User:Username/Prefers strongly]]
+All votables that are before the keyword '''over''' gets voted up and every votable after that gets voted down.
+*<font color="Green">Prefers [[X]]</font><font color="Red"> over [[Y]] </font>results in  +1 and -1 respectively
+*<font color="Green">Strongly prefers [[X]] and [[Y]] </font><font color="Red">  over Z </font> results in  +2, +2 and -2 respectively
+* <font color=green>Strongly prefers [[Product X]] and [[Product Y]]<font color=red> over [[Product Z]]</font> <for [[reason 1]]>
+etc.etc.
+----
+==What's this I keep hearing about a dual voting system?==
+[[Indirect Vote]]s probably won't be implemented due to lack of interest