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'''Identity dispute''' arises when '''claimed identity cannot be verified''' ie. that someone is who they are claiming to be '''or''' when anonymous users (anonymous users may in fact be [[trolls]] that frequent the media in question) that '''refuse to take an identity''' thus existing in the [[social club]] as non-persons | '''Identity dispute''' arises when '''claimed identity cannot be verified''' ie. that someone is who they are claiming to be '''or''' when anonymous users (anonymous users may in fact be [[trolls]] that frequent the media in question) that '''refuse to take an identity''' thus existing (or perhaps non-existing) in the [[social club]] as non-persons or using [[pseudonyms]] | ||
This can be seen as a subset of a [[political dispute]] in that a political dispute may involve accusations of real or manufactured identity disputes as a form of political battle | This can be seen as a subset of a [[political dispute]] in that a political dispute may involve accusations of real or manufactured identity disputes as a form of political battle | ||
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Some [[trolls]] claim that some ideologies claim that identity and politics itself are just forms of [[neutrality dispute]]. | Some [[trolls]] claim that some ideologies claim that identity and politics itself are just forms of [[neutrality dispute]]. | ||
[[Trolls]] consider | [[Trolls]] consider the '''whole concept of identity dispute stupid''', and it is the reason for the many problems of such projects as [[Wikipedia]], which accept and promote such ideologies, and attract believers in them, who eventually degrade and destroy the capacity of the project itself to deal with political dispute, and promote noxious personalities. | ||
Failing to recognize the concept of an '''identity dispute''' leads directly to [[sysop vandalism]] as [[revert]]s occur simply because of what sysops believe or suspect about identity. This is one of many reasons | [[Trolls]] promote the [[political virtues]] instead, and reject identity that is not [[factionally defined]]. | ||
Failing to recognize the concept of an '''identity dispute''' leads directly to [[sysop vandalism]] as [[revert]]s occur simply because of what sysops believe or suspect about identity. | |||
This is one of many reasons why [[trolls]] advocate ''foment ambiguity'' and not [[use real names]], particularly if ''constant pseudonyms are allowed''. | |||
Probably the most realistic view is that identity and other politics disputes are inevitable and normal and part of language and linguistic relationships. See [[conceptual metaphor]] for the "green" and [[God's Eye View]] for the "grey" way to settle such debates. The latter leads to trust in one [[GodKing]]. The former may lead to a greater role for [[trolls]]. There are reasons to avoid either extreme. It is not good to let trolls totally escape all accountability and it is also not good to let [[outing problem]]s determine who participates. | Probably the most realistic view is that identity and other politics disputes are inevitable and normal and part of language and linguistic relationships. See [[conceptual metaphor]] for the "green" and [[God's Eye View]] for the "grey" way to settle such debates. The latter leads to trust in one [[GodKing]]. The former may lead to a greater role for [[trolls]]. There are reasons to avoid either extreme. It is not good to let trolls totally escape all accountability and it is also not good to let [[outing problem]]s determine who participates. | ||