User talk:MattisManzel: Difference between revisions

I came to know wiki in August 03. I completely went into it from the very first moment and I eversince hardly use any other other platform for writing anymore. I had vagely heard about wikipedia before, but had never tried to write anything (paralysed years of virus-spoiled old OS on expensive dial-up connection had prevented that for me before last summer). When going on stage, you choose small clubs before going there in the madison square garden. Wikipedia always felt like a TRex for me. In addition the dry encyclodaedic concept never attracted me. Very fast I found myself deeply involved in small German wikis. I did not behave very nicely these days. Flashmob was still hot last autumn. When trying to support flashmob via wiki the first serious conflict arose and I lost almost all connection to where I'd been wikiwriting. I then toured wikilandia making wikihomepages (still a hobby of mine, I fear). Soon I got into Meatball, which I think is tremendous. There was all this elaborated stuff there, just completely amazing. No doubt that I absolutely wanted to take part of that. It was a strange mood there though, something was wrong with the local Zauber there these days. No idea. I still behaved not too nicely, though a lot better than before (also due to the fact that english is not my mothertongue). I was pretty provocative and pushed in a good deal of emotionality, and maybe it was due to that fact too that the waters started moving. CommunityWiki started as a fork of Meatball in November 03. I translated NoLeader to German with my Austrian friend while rushing downhills, it became one of the first CW pages. This was a concept I liked as it was open to make something grow. And it started and grew and grew and it still does. And we still have NoLeader on CW. We're better off without one. Due to the fact of being a centralized system (freenet is decentralized, wiki is centralized = wiki has to become like freenet) there are "sysop"-like people on CW, yes, this will be immanent to wiki as long as it doesn't get decentralized. Our "sysop" is the same person who put the original of NoLeaders on CW and offered several times to share his sysop-state with others. We actually did not need that, as he does the job most perfectly. I have no idea what horrors go on inside the TRex, maybe you made your experiences with sysops there and maybe your whole trollship origins from there. For me CW is the place with the less possible hierarchy on wiki today. It's this why I feel best there. Wiki unfortunately still needs people with more technical power. This will end when decentralising wiki. We are actually working on that too. We work on a lot of good stuff for wiki. A work like that takes good Zauber, it's stuck immediately when the Zauber is gone. A little bit it's like approaching dogs or little children. When they start barking or crying you've done something wrong. It's best then to make a step backwards and wait until they stop. Then try again. Thanks anyway for your real trolldom. And tell me when there is something to translate, please. I might have time for. I might as well have not, sure.

http://de.geocities.com/mattismanzel/texte/yggdrasil.html

Ciao -- [[User:MattisManzel|MattisManzel]] 17:36, 30 Jun 2004 (EEST)