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Welcome, DanKeshet, but do not change the Main Page of the Development Wiki for end user purposes - leave /wiki/ alone but change http://consumerium.org front page instead
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that might be relevant to consumers.
that might be relevant to consumers.
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I find this front page absolutely overwhelming.  All of your ideas re: signals in supermarkets are cool, but, frankly, when I arrived here, I hoped I could just find a list of companies, and quickly research whether, if I buy sneakers from Adidas, will I be supporting child slavery, etc.  I'm new and don't want to step on toes by editing the main page, esp. if I have a different vision of what this should be.  Do you mind if I give it a go and you can revert?  Or should I discuss this somewhere else?  [[User:DanKeshet|DanKeshet]] 22:08, 10 Mar 2004 (EET)
I find this front page absolutely overwhelming.  All of your ideas re: signals in supermarkets are cool, but, frankly, when I arrived here, I hoped I could just find a list of companies, and quickly research whether, if I buy sneakers from Adidas, will I be supporting child slavery, etc.   
 
:Basically you want to browse the [[Research Wiki]]/[[Opinion Wiki]] which does not exist yet.  Right now the [[Development Wiki]] is serving multiple purposes, but it serves those pretty well.  Abstract language like [[Consumerium buying signal]] and [[terminal device]] is quite necessary for development purposes, but you are right, the ordinary user shouldn't see it.
 
I'm new and don't want to step on toes by editing the main page, esp. if I have a different vision of what this should be.  Do you mind if I give it a go and you can revert?  Or should I discuss this somewhere else?  [[User:DanKeshet|DanKeshet]] 22:08, 10 Mar 2004 (EET)
 
:Please do ''not'' edit the [[Main Page]] of the [[Development Wiki]] to focus on end user concerns.  This should be at http://consumerium.org itself - the REAL front page.  The user doesn't want to become a wiki contributor to look up information such as you note.  Right now all that is there is an ad for Wikipedia that assumes you already know what a "wiki" is, etc., which drives away most users.  It MUST change, and it MUST change NOW.  So if you want to prototype an HTML page for http://consumerium.org that would be very very welcome.  There's some comment on it here, do a search or two, it has some non-obvious name like "things to do"
 
:Long run, there are three different groups to serve, so there must be a [[Main Page User]], [[Main Page Researcher]] and a [[Main Page Developer]], and also a [[Main Page Troll]] possibly. 
 
:Notice at [[Meta-Wikipedia]], a similar situation, you have a main page that is basically for developers and frequent contributors, and to find the stuff of general interest there's a subpage [[Main Page Neutral]] (neutral as to the interests it serves).
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