Heroic trolling: Difference between revisions
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'''Heroic trolling''' also seems to justify the enormous amount of time wasted on [[Wikipedia]] and other [[large public wiki]]s, trying to make them useful. ''See [[Talk:trolling]] for the '''Wikiactivist''' view of this work.'' | '''Heroic trolling''' also seems to justify the enormous amount of time wasted on [[Wikipedia]] and other [[large public wiki]]s, trying to make them useful. ''See [[Talk:trolling]] for the '''Wikiactivist''' view of this work.'' | ||
For instance: | Due to [[politics as usual]], views of '''heroic trolling''' tend to be wildly contradictory. For instance: | ||
*engaging in witty combat until someone very stupid or doing things clearly contradicting the [[wiki mission]] is [[driven off by trolls]], e.g. the author of [http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Heroic_trolling this nonsense]: | *engaging in witty combat until someone very stupid or doing things clearly contradicting the [[wiki mission]] is [[driven off by trolls]], e.g. the author of [http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Heroic_trolling this nonsense] (note ironic self-link implying this article is itself nonsense): | ||
::::VERSUS | |||
:For instance, replacing useful articles with poorly-written, [[Consumerium:FAQ|poorly-linked]], semi-coherent rants that use an idiosyncratic vocabulary that nobody else understands. | :For instance, replacing useful articles with poorly-written, [[Consumerium:FAQ|poorly-linked]], semi-coherent rants that use an idiosyncratic vocabulary that nobody else understands. | ||
::Clearly they do by now, as they are able to mimic this vocabulary while attempting to mock it! Poorly linked? Hell if anything they're over-linked. | ::Clearly they do by now, as they are able to mimic this vocabulary while attempting to mock it! Poorly linked? Hell if anything they're over-linked. | ||
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*simply acting as [[Lowest Troll]] when there is no one else doing so. Some [[honour]] may accrue to those who take such responsibilities, and [[stigma]] will likely accrue also via the [[sysop power structure]] which sees trolling as vandalism and their own activities, necessarily, as being never [[sysop vandalism|capable of becoming equivalent to vandalism]]. The lower the [[social status]] and the more stigma applied by [[vile mailing list|vile]] people, the more '''heroic'''. Especially given nonsensical attacks like: | *simply acting as [[Lowest Troll]] when there is no one else doing so. Some [[honour]] may accrue to those who take such responsibilities, and [[stigma]] will likely accrue also via the [[sysop power structure]] which sees trolling as vandalism and their own activities, necessarily, as being never [[sysop vandalism|capable of becoming equivalent to vandalism]]. The lower the [[social status]] and the more stigma applied by [[vile mailing list|vile]] people, the more '''heroic'''. Especially given nonsensical attacks like: | ||
:Very little [[honour]] may accrue to those who take such "responsibilities", and [[stigma]] will likely accrue also via anyone who sees through the trolls' silly masturbatory fantasies of importance. | ::::VERSUS | ||
::Funny, it would seem [[Wikimedia]] has such fantasies, and seems also to generate the importance of both its own [[sysop power structure]] and the [[bogeyman]] they claim is its justification for existence. | |||
:Naturally, the individuals who believe in "heroic trolling" get some sort of thrill out of their electronic chest-beating and dung-flinging; why they do will forever remain a mystery. | ::Very little [[honour]] may accrue to those who take such "responsibilities", and [[stigma]] will likely accrue also via anyone who sees through the trolls' silly masturbatory fantasies of importance. | ||
::Perhaps [[magnificent trolling]] or [[suing for funding]] is the objective? | :::Funny, it would seem [[Wikimedia]] has such fantasies, and seems also to generate the importance of both its own [[sysop power structure]] and the [[bogeyman]] they claim is its justification for existence. | ||
::Naturally, the individuals who believe in "heroic trolling" get some sort of thrill out of their electronic chest-beating and dung-flinging; why they do will forever remain a mystery. | |||
:::Perhaps [[magnificent trolling]] or [[suing for funding]] is the objective? | |||
Because the Lowest Troll usually has some [[infrastructure owners trust]], however, they cannot achieve what is called [[magnificent trolling]] - this term is reserved for very despised [[trolls]] who drive off even [[GodKing]]s and discredit [[ontologist]]s, which is later seen to be a Good Thing. The [[Wikipedia Red Faction]] seems to engage in heroic trolling and to recognize that there is some potential for magnificence in their activities to oppose [[Wikimedia]]. | Because the Lowest Troll usually has some [[infrastructure owners trust]], however, they cannot achieve what is called [[magnificent trolling]] - this term is reserved for very despised [[trolls]] who drive off even [[GodKing]]s and discredit [[ontologist]]s, which is later seen to be a Good Thing. The [[Wikipedia Red Faction]] seems to engage in heroic trolling and to recognize that there is some potential for magnificence in their activities to oppose [[Wikimedia]]. | ||