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    [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] never gets created, and the [[Consumerium board]] lets [[Consumerium governance]] get so slack that some of the issues above are not promptly dealt with.  The system loses some integrity.  Board members resign in disgust.  They are replaced with people of lower quality.  These try to control everything (as lower quality people do) and so a [[CGO]] gets formed as a rebel organization, and everything built so far has to be attacked by it and destroyed, in order to create space for the high-integrity thing we wanted in the first place.  A good many years are lost.  In that time, [[Great Ape]]s go extinct in the wild, [[rainforest]]s are destroyed, and [[GMO]] [[KitKat McFlurry]] becomes the most popular snack food.
    [[Consumerium Governance Organization]] never gets created, and the [[Consumerium board]] lets [[Consumerium governance]] get so slack that some of the issues above are not promptly dealt with.  The system loses some integrity.  Board members resign in disgust.  They are replaced with people of lower quality.  These try to control everything (as lower quality people do) and so a [[CGO]] gets formed as a rebel organization, and everything built so far has to be attacked by it and destroyed, in order to create space for the high-integrity thing we wanted in the first place.  A good many years are lost.  In that time, [[Great Ape]]s go extinct in the wild, [[rainforest]]s are destroyed, and [[GMO]] [[KitKat McFlurry]] becomes the most popular snack food.
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    By default we adopt [[GPL]] or [[LGPL]] just to extend [[APC Action Apps]] or work more closely with [[TikiWiki]] or [[MediaWiki]] or [[MoinMoinWiki]] folks.  No [[Consumerium Software License]] or [[Green Documentation License]] ever gets developed that could require a focus strictly on [[green purposes]].


    By default we adopt [[GPL]] or [[LGPL]] just to extend [[APC Action Apps]] or work more closely with [[TikiWiki]] or [[MediaWiki]] or [[MoinMoinWiki]] folks. No [[Consumerium Software License]] or [[Green Documentation License]] ever gets developed that could require a focus strictly on [[green purposes]].
    :Content license is more crucial. It's a furious balancing act between becoming stale and winding up in a court room. [[User:Juxo|Juxo]]


    Unfortunately, using such overly-open licenses lets [[nonprofit]] [[arms industry lobby group]]s and a [[Global Warming promotion society]], using billions of dollars in corporate funding, build the [[hardware requirements]] first and give away the hardware.  We can't stop them - we've given our work away, and the license says they can use it any way they want, and modify any of the [[accounting standards]] or the [[score]] system, with no [[accountability]].
    Unfortunately, using such overly-open licenses lets [[nonprofit]] [[arms industry lobby group]]s and a [[Global Warming promotion society]], using billions of dollars in corporate funding, build the [[hardware requirements]] first and give away the hardware.  We can't stop them - we've given our work away, and the license says they can use it any way they want, and modify any of the [[accounting standards]] or the [[score]] system, with no [[accountability]].
    :Rotten [[fork]] has always been a threat scenario. Believe me that I've spent time thinking about countering it and the best I've come up with is to be just as open about the [[goals]] as I can to minimize the risk of hostile people and organisations from attacking the project with charges of [[secret goals]]. Also it's up to the people which fork they choose to use and support. If the "cuecat"-type-of-folks get down to implementation level before us, then we just have to refocus to provide high level web-based services and forget about [[online]] [[shelf front]] presence. [[User:Juxo|Juxo]]


    Of course, their version of [[Consumerium]] does not rely on any trustworthy [[styles of capital]] analysis, but instead, deliberately leaves ambiguous the most important facts about [[deforestation]] and [[arms trade]].  As a result, conflict in the world ''increases'' as a ''direct result'' of them now having our wonderful work to build propaganda fronts with.  They can claim approval of all kinds of great looking front groups and show projects they have done, that a serious analysis show is just cosmetic.
    Of course, their version of [[Consumerium]] does not rely on any trustworthy [[styles of capital]] analysis, but instead, deliberately leaves ambiguous the most important facts about [[deforestation]] and [[arms trade]].  As a result, conflict in the world ''increases'' as a ''direct result'' of them now having our wonderful work to build propaganda fronts with.  They can claim approval of all kinds of great looking front groups and show projects they have done, that a serious analysis show is just cosmetic.


    We are forced to take up arms, ourselves, just to stop them... Ironically, by refusing to discriminate against them or their customers, we have ''become'' their customers... They are of course wildly happy with this result.
    We are forced to take up arms, ourselves, just to stop them... Ironically, by refusing to discriminate against them or their customers, we have ''become'' their customers... They are of course wildly happy with this result.
    :Institutional vs. Grassroots influence seems to be a battle going on right at this moment and I can't really see any reason to expect much change to that in the future. Mellow down [[troll] [[User:Juxo|Juxo]]