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    ===General===
    '''Voting''' refers to any system of making [[w:multiple choice|multiple choice]] collectively - it is typically used in [[w:election|election]]s to form a [[w:government|government]] which must make binding decisions that affect everyone, or elect a board (or sometimes even the management) of an enterprise.
    '''Voting''' refers to any system of making [[multiple choice]] collectively - it is typically used in [[election]]s to form a [[government]] which must make binding decisions that affect everyone, or elect a board (or sometimes even the management) of an enterprise.


    In democratic elections the voting is '''closed''' and the [[vote counting]] is '''open'''.  
    In democratic elections the voting is '''closed''' and the [[#The trick is in the counting|vote counting]] is '''open'''.  


    Consumerium has the opposite system where '''voting is [[open voting|open]]''' and vote counting is '''[[closed counting|closed]] and tunable''' which is possible because there is no requirement to reach a consensus like there is when electing elected representatives of the people in democratic elections.
    Consumerium has the opposite system where '''voting''' is '''open''' though '''anonymized''' for consumer comfort and security and vote '''counting''' is up-to-'''personal and [[#The trick is in the counting|closed]]''' which is possible because there is '''no requirement to reach a consensus''' like there is when electing elected representatives of the people in democratic elections or writing an encyclopedia.


    The voting pages are most obviously "noindex, nofollow" ( stops search engines from indexing ) and furthermore copyright of the wiki user i.e. '''not copylefted'''. If someone wants to publish vote sets in another namespace this surely will be allowed or even recommended. ( If NGOs want to publish vote sets it's sort of the revival of the [[indirect vote]]. )
    ''See [[edits, votes and bets]] for the debate about how to decide the final
    [[Consumerium buying signal]].''


    Some basic paradigms have been suggested to measure the support of [[campaigns]]:
    == What one will be able to vote ? ==
    *[[Direct Vote]] requires many votes and rewards heavy participation, and,
    Direct votes are:
    *[[Indirect Vote]] requires fewer votes and rewards [[faction]] organization
    <table bgcolor="Black">
    *and the oddly-named [[WikiVote]] which seems to overlap with both of them
    <tr><td bgcolor="Black"><font color=#009900>'''+2'''</font></td><td bgcolor="White"> Recommends [[Company X]] </td></tr>
    <tr><td bgcolor="Black"><font color=#009900>'''+1'''</font></td><td bgcolor="White"> Supports [[Company X]] </td></tr>
    <tr><td bgcolor="Black"><font color=#009900>'''+1'''</font></td><td bgcolor="White">Tries to support [[Company X]] </td></tr>
    <tr><td bgcolor="Black"><font color=yellow>'''0'''</font></td><td bgcolor="White">Votes middle</td>
    <td bgcolor="Black"><font color=yellow>'''00 (+1 and -1)'''</font></td><td bgcolor="White">middles</td>
    <td bgcolor="Black"><font color=yellow>'''0000 (+2 and -2)'''</font></td><td bgcolor="White">middles heavily</td></tr>
    <tr><td bgcolor="Black"><font color=#CC0000>'''-1'''</font></td><td bgcolor="White">Tries to avoid [[Company X]] </td></tr>
    <tr><td bgcolor="Black"><font color=#CC0000>'''-1 '''</font></td<td bgcolor="White">Avoids [[Company X]]</td></tr>
    <tr><td bgcolor="Black"><font color=#CC0000>'''-2 '''</font></td><td bgcolor="White">Boycotts [[Company X]] </td></tr>
    </table>


    ''This is one of many [[open questions]] that need to be resolved.''


    ==Planned vote structure==
    <table><tr><td>'''All 0's move the result towards'''</td><td bgcolor="Black"><font color="yellow">50% positive.</font></td></tr></table>


    *[[User:Username/My representational vote]] (i.e. proxy or [[Indirect Vote]], this is probably not used at all in the end)
    *[[User:Username/Boycotts]]
    *[[User:Username/Avoids]]
    *[[User:Username/Supports]]
    *[[User:Username/Recommends]]
    *[[User:Username/Hedges]]
    *[[User:Username/Hedges heavily]]


    Use following syntax (vote only once on each "thing")
    ----


    *[[Company X]]
    == Right to vanish for the voters ==
    *[[Country X]]
    By default voter ids and wiki-accounts cannot be connected for reasons of consumer privacy protection.
    *[[Product group X]]
    *...


    One can add any number of reasons by prefixing like this (you can intermix commas with "and"s so don't worry about that.
    We respect the voting consumers' [[right to vanish]] by having '''unique but discardable ids'''. Just
    #) Set all vote sub-sets non-visible.
    #) Discard your old voter id. ( some data will be kept, needs to be worked out what )
    #) Slightly modify your votes and take a new voter id.
    and '''you are once again the only one that knows who is this new id'''


    '''[[Company X]] for [[Reason 1]], [[Reason 2]] and [[Reason 3]]'''  
    == Open but anonymized voting ==
    Everybody will be able to see what everybody voted but not know which votes were cast by whom. This way we can protect the voters privacy while maintaining resilience to information warfare. It would enrich the Consumium social media game experience to be able to share sub-sets of your votes with your friends or even publish some sets of your votes for all to see. Forming teams and factions that draw and aggregate from team/faction members' votes sub-sets seems a likely feature.


    in the above articles to cast your votes. Vote only once on one thing
    == What things will you be able to vote on ? ==
    Everybody may vote on any thing (it should be somehow related to production, trading or shopping),  or  but only the following will be tallied [[:Category:Companies|Companies]], [[:Category:Brands|Brands]], [[:Category:Products|Products]], [[:Category:Product groups|Product groups]], [[:Category:Countries]] and [[:Cateogry:Areas|Areas]]. If Votes overlap or conflict, the first or last vote encountered will be counted. This is yet to be decided.


    ==What things can you vote on?==
    ----
    == The trick is in the counting. ==
    So by closed and tuneable counting we mean that you can ( if you wish to ) have a personalized vote counting result because no consensus outcome is required.


    Everyone with over 50 edits may vote on any thing (it should be somehow related to production, trading or shoping), or  but only the following will be tallied [[:Category:Companies|Companies]], [[:Category:Brands|Brands]], [[:Category:Products|Products]], [[:Category:Product groups|Product groups]], [[Category:Countries]] and [[:Cateogry:Areas|Areas]]. If Votes overlap or conflict, the first or last vote encountered will be counted. This is yet to be decided.
    The most simple way to achieve a vote counting result that is customized is to use '''automatic amplification''', a one-check-box-solution, which is to say that the people who voted similar to you get more voting power ( say +30% ) ( amplification ) and those who voted conflicting with your votes get less ( dampening ) ( say -30% )


    ==What's this I keep hearing about a dual voting system?==
    With the '''open voting, tuneable counting''' we are making sure that we have the highest resiliency to information warfare . Every time a skewing effort ( usually by paid trolls ) is detected proper counter measures ( parametrization of the vote counting ) can be formulated and distributed.  
    [[Indirect Vote]]s probably won't be implemented due to lack of interest
     
    ===What one can vote?===
    Direct votes are:
    <table bgcolor="Black">
    <tr><td bgcolor="Black"><font color=#009900>'''+2'''</font></td><td> Recommends [[Company X]] </td></tr>
    <tr><td bgcolor="Black"><font color=#009900>'''+1'''</font></td><td> Supports [[Company X]] </td></tr>
    <tr><td bgcolor="Black"><font color=#009900>'''+1'''</font></td><td>Tries to support [[Company X]] </td></tr>
    <tr><td bgcolor="Black"><font color=yellow>'''0'''</font></td><td>is neutral about or</td>
    <td bgcolor="Black"><font color=yellow>'''00 (+1 and -1)'''</font></td><td>Hedges [must find better word] or</td>
    <td bgcolor="Black"><font color=yellow>'''0000 (+2 and -2)'''</font></td><td>Hedges heavily</td></tr>
    <tr><td bgcolor="Black"><font color=#CC0000>'''-1'''</font></td><td>Tries to avoid [[Company X]] </td></tr>
    <tr><td bgcolor="Black"><font color=#CC0000>'''-1 '''</font></td><td>Avoids [[Company X]]</td></tr>
    <tr><td bgcolor="Black"><font color=#CC0000>'''-2 '''</font></td><td>Boycotts [[Company X]] </td></tr>
    </table>
     
     
    <table><tr><td>'''All 0's move the result towards'''</td><td bgcolor="Black"><font color="yellow">50% positive.</font></td></tr></table>


    As in all highly-political wikis we expect a [[paid trolls vs. unpaid trolls]] situation. We are also optimist and hope that a healthy dynamic equilibrium(s) will form. :D :D
    ----
    ----


    ==Voting result for Company X==
    == Voting result for Company X ==


    '''Vote average on -2≤x≤2 scale normalized to 100%:'''
    '''Vote average on -2≤x≤2 scale normalized to 100%:'''
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    </table>
    </table>


    ==What's the ratio of 0's compared to all votes (percentage)==
    == What's the ratio of 0's compared to all votes (percentage) ==
    Other possible words to refer to this metric. These include:
    Other possible words to refer to this metric. These include:


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    <tr><td bgcolor="Black"><font color=#009900>'''0 ≤ x < 15%''' of votes are 0's</font></td></tr></table>
    <tr><td bgcolor="Black"><font color=#009900>'''0 ≤ x < 15%''' of votes are 0's</font></td></tr></table>


    ----
    == When will voting be implemented ? ==
     
    Not from the start of the [[implementation phase]] surely ( one would be able to guess who is who ). A few thousand users sounds adequate time to implement the voting and vote counting system. Running [[w:one-way hash function]] of the user name and the secret secret for that user and representing that in a [[w:Base 36]] encoding could be one way to have public voter ids.
    =Voting in the future=
    In the future you can use one line to vote on multiple entities on one line.
     
    *[[User:Username/Prefers]]
    *[[User:Username/Prefers strongly]]
     
    All votables that are before the keyword '''over''' gets voted up and every votable after that gets voted down.
     
    *<font color="Green">Prefers [[X]]</font><font color="Red"> over [[Y]] </font>results in  +1 and -1 respectively
     
    *<font color="Green">Strongly prefers [[X]] and [[Y]] </font><font color="Red">  over Z </font> results in +2, +2 and -2 respectively
     
    * <font color=green>Strongly prefers [[Product X]] and [[Product Y]]<font color=red> over [[Product Z]]</font> <for [[reason 1]]>
     
    etc.etc.


    [[Category:Help]]
    [[Category:Help]]
    [[Category:Voting]]

    Latest revision as of 14:26, 12 April 2021

    Voting refers to any system of making multiple choice collectively - it is typically used in elections to form a government which must make binding decisions that affect everyone, or elect a board (or sometimes even the management) of an enterprise.

    In democratic elections the voting is closed and the vote counting is open.

    Consumerium has the opposite system where voting is open though anonymized for consumer comfort and security and vote counting is up-to-personal and closed which is possible because there is no requirement to reach a consensus like there is when electing elected representatives of the people in democratic elections or writing an encyclopedia.


    What one will be able to vote ?[edit | edit source]

    Direct votes are:

    +2 Recommends Company X
    +1 Supports Company X
    +1Tries to support Company X
    0Votes middle 00 (+1 and -1)middles 0000 (+2 and -2)middles heavily
    -1Tries to avoid Company X
    -1 </tdAvoids Company X
    -2 Boycotts Company X


    All 0's move the result towards50% positive.



    Right to vanish for the voters[edit | edit source]

    By default voter ids and wiki-accounts cannot be connected for reasons of consumer privacy protection.

    We respect the voting consumers' right to vanish by having unique but discardable ids. Just

    1. ) Set all vote sub-sets non-visible.
    2. ) Discard your old voter id. ( some data will be kept, needs to be worked out what )
    3. ) Slightly modify your votes and take a new voter id.

    and you are once again the only one that knows who is this new id

    Open but anonymized voting[edit | edit source]

    Everybody will be able to see what everybody voted but not know which votes were cast by whom. This way we can protect the voters privacy while maintaining resilience to information warfare. It would enrich the Consumium social media game experience to be able to share sub-sets of your votes with your friends or even publish some sets of your votes for all to see. Forming teams and factions that draw and aggregate from team/faction members' votes sub-sets seems a likely feature.

    What things will you be able to vote on ?[edit | edit source]

    Everybody may vote on any thing (it should be somehow related to production, trading or shopping), or but only the following will be tallied Companies, Brands, Products, Product groups, Category:Countries and Areas. If Votes overlap or conflict, the first or last vote encountered will be counted. This is yet to be decided.


    The trick is in the counting.[edit | edit source]

    So by closed and tuneable counting we mean that you can ( if you wish to ) have a personalized vote counting result because no consensus outcome is required.

    The most simple way to achieve a vote counting result that is customized is to use automatic amplification, a one-check-box-solution, which is to say that the people who voted similar to you get more voting power ( say +30% ) ( amplification ) and those who voted conflicting with your votes get less ( dampening ) ( say -30% )

    With the open voting, tuneable counting we are making sure that we have the highest resiliency to information warfare . Every time a skewing effort ( usually by paid trolls ) is detected proper counter measures ( parametrization of the vote counting ) can be formulated and distributed.

    As in all highly-political wikis we expect a paid trolls vs. unpaid trolls situation. We are also optimist and hope that a healthy dynamic equilibrium(s) will form. :D :D


    Voting result for Company X[edit | edit source]

    Vote average on -2≤x≤2 scale normalized to 100%:

    Result Scale 1
    0 ≤ x <40% positive on Company X (Red) 40 ≤ x ≤ 60% (Yellow) 60 < x ≤ 100%

    What's the ratio of 0's compared to all votes (percentage)[edit | edit source]

    Other possible words to refer to this metric. These include:

    • Levering towards 50% positive (bad. reference to leverage)
    • Middlage/Middling (middlage is propably better, pronounced french way)
    • Quasi-disputedness (maybe, maybe not)
    • Neutralifying (maybe, maybe not)
    • It's trollage again! All your 2 cows immediemente!

    This metric is an Average (scale may have to be adjusted later when we can get info on what levels voting 0's settle into)

    60 ≤ x ≤ 100% of votes are 0'sNotice the range here is 40% wide
    45 ≤ x < 60% of votes are 0's
    30 ≤ x < 45% of votes are 0's
    15 ≤ x < 30% of votes are 0's
    0 ≤ x < 15% of votes are 0's

    When will voting be implemented ?[edit | edit source]

    Not from the start of the implementation phase surely ( one would be able to guess who is who ). A few thousand users sounds adequate time to implement the voting and vote counting system. Running w:one-way hash function of the user name and the secret secret for that user and representing that in a w:Base 36 encoding could be one way to have public voter ids.