User:Jukeboksi/Thinking aloud: Difference between revisions
(thinking about merging Content and Opinion wiki) |
(you're confusing Mediawiki's problems (which should not be our problems) with design issues - also signal/research is clearer than content/opinion) |
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This has advantages: | This has advantages: | ||
*Better scalability | *Better scalability | ||
*Better security (HTTPS?) for | *Better security (HTTPS?) for [[Content Wiki]] without performance losses in [[Opinion Wiki]] | ||
*Differentiated | *Differentiated [[sysop power structure]] to deal with things that directly alter the [[Consumerium buying signal]] (content) versus not. | ||
*What else is there | *Use of one to experiment for the others | ||
*What else is there? | |||
and disadvantages: | and disadvantages which would apply only if [[mediawiki]] were used: | ||
*Distinct Recent Changes (could be hacked to show both in one view) | *Distinct Recent Changes (could be hacked to show both in one view) | ||
*Double login (can maybe be avoided by sharing the session) | *Double login (can maybe be avoided by sharing the session, or using jabber id) | ||
*Checking link correctness is more work (could be hacked too) | *Checking link correctness is more work (could be hacked too) | ||
*Differentiated | *Differentiated [[sysop power structure]] easier to subvert by [[usurper]]s unless care is taken | ||
*What else is there | *What else is there? | ||
I hear that [http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Main_Page OpenFacts] have done something like session sharing with multiple wikis with MediaWiki. Must inquire them about their solution and experiences | I hear that [http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Main_Page OpenFacts] have done something like session sharing with multiple wikis with [[MediaWiki]]. Must inquire them about their solution and experiences | ||
For what I've been able to think lately maybe merging [[Content Wiki]] and [[Opinion Wiki]] into just one [[wiki]] could prove most workable. Since almost all article types have been defined already and will use a [[pseudo namespace]] or a real one if we hack it to support more true namespaces. | For what I've been able to think lately maybe merging [[Content Wiki]] and [[Opinion Wiki]] into just one [[wiki]] could prove most workable. Since almost all article types have been defined already and will use a [[pseudo namespace]] or a real one if we hack it to support more true namespaces. | ||
:What about [[Signal:Exxon]] versus [[Research:Exxon]]? Something has to be debated as research before it is accepted as reliable enough for the [[Consumerium buying signal]] to be affected? Ditch the words "content" and "opinion", they mean nothing. | |||
:You're confusing design issues with [[wiki code]] issues. Don't bend design around [[mediawiki]], it's garbage and will never work on the scale or with the reliability required. Other wikis do a much better job of dealing with these problems, and will do better in future, certainly. The [[tikiwiki]] people have already dealt with a lot of these issues, and the [[OneBigWiki]] people are working on login and changes issues, although they are wrong to think [[MeatballWiki]] is going to help, it's not a solution, it's another problem. The [[MoinMoin]] people could merge all this easily since they are using common [[Python]] facilities. | |||
:Don't lose the two | |||
===From [[Opinion Wiki]]=== | ===From [[Opinion Wiki]]=== | ||