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30.3.2004 | |||
I'm changing operators about now and thus for a little while I don't have a connection at home. Hopefully the connection will be restored soon | |||
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27.3.2004 | |||
Preoccupied in some behind the scenes actions. | |||
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26.3.2004 | |||
I keep getting fun books from my sister. Now I have a Finnish translation of "Die Börse" by [[w:Max Weber|Max Weber]], which should provide for some interesting reading moments. | |||
It seems that at the time of writing ([[w:1894|1894]] to [[w:1896|1896]]) Max Weber was a professor of [[w:macroeconomics|macroeconomics]]. [[w:commodity exhange|Commodity exhange]]s and [[w:stock exchange|stock exchange]]s were not differentiated at that time | |||
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25.3.2004 | |||
I've been busy with application procedures to get admitted to study International Business in Tampere, also the preparations for the Finnish Social Forum are underway. | |||
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22.3.2004 | |||
Today I'm mainly busy translating and collating material to Finnish for a presentation at the [http://www.prodemokratia.net/suomensosiaalifoorumi/english.html The Finnish Social Forum]. | |||
We are launching a Finnish language [[Development Wiki]] as soon as I get the new database required for it. If there is some notable action in the [[Finnish Development Wiki]] I will try to periodically update the English wiki on the developments. Not all articles here are planned to be translated into Finnish, just the cream of the crop. | |||
[[Research Wiki]] and [[Publish Wiki]] are the [[wikis]] we are going to work with. mmkay? | |||
:So it's [[Develop]], [[Research]], [[Publish]]? Fine. So some process turns what "we publish" into the [[Consumerium buying signal]]. Fine. That works. The [[Consumerium Process]] is going to require some updates to reflect the Develop->Research->Publish->Signal->Feedback->Develop [[service cycle]] of [[Consumerium:Itself]]. | |||
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21.3.2004 | |||
Today I've been concentrating on outlining the [[Consumerium Process]] in relation of [[Noise Wiki]] to [[Signal Wiki]] trying to take both [[troll friendly]]ness and '''stability''' and '''reliability''' and practical issues of technical implementation into account. | |||
:See comments at [[Talk:Research Wiki]]. Noise implies [[Development Wiki]] more than [[Research Wiki]]. The name "noise wiki" is bad for many reasons. What prevents anyone from putting in any crap, and why should someone who is not basically worried about the [[Consumerium buying signal]], but just wants to write articles, contribute stuff to be called "noise"? They'd contribute diligent "research" to a [[Research Wiki]], probably, but why volunteer good material to a wiki whose very name invites crap? But anyway get the functions right first, names right later. | |||
I'll try to merge the material from [[Content Wiki]], [[TCE]], [[Campaigns]], [[Opinion Wiki]], [[Direct Vote]]s,�[[Indirect Vote]]s and [[WikiVote]]s to these articles or somewhere where we can '''have clarity on our implementation plan''' | |||
:Please combine all the voting stuff into [[edits, votes and bets]] or at least argue for this design there so we can look at how they interact. And yes spending time reading something is a bet of your time. | |||
:There is no final design, so this is not just about "implementation". It's ONE PROPOSED DESIGN. We should have three or four, and they should compete. | |||
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20.3.2004 | |||
Exhausted today. I'm planning on holding a discussion of Consumerium.org goals and means in [http://www.prodemokratia.net/suomensosiaalifoorumi/english.html The Finnish Social Forum] and that takes some preparation. | |||
:Try not to turn it into a [[Nokia]] ad! l-D Make them pay for such ads! | |||
::No way. The way they've been slowing down [[bluetooth]] adoption, even if their motivation is to avoid by all costs associating [[Nokia]] with blutooth malware or bluevirus. But still inability to use [[SyncML]] and XHTML-browser over [[bluetooth]] is unacceptable for a leader of the pack type of company's products. | |||
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19.3.2004 | |||
The box I installed Debian on was all segmentation faulty burned up hardware and I'm hoping to get another (hopefully working) old box to install Debian on next week so I can try out GORC and other software. Luckyly our [[Development Wiki]] is running on reliable http://pingviini.net server. | |||
Sent an email about [[Fairtrade On Demand]] to [[fairtrade]] organisations and awaiting what their stand on the idea is. | |||
I'm doing some [[Wiki]] maintenance. Mainly deleting stale irrelevant articles and linking orphan articles. I might be looping though all articles to do minor fixes and relinks since i have no new ideas about [[Language vs. Area]] or [[Brief introduction|New Summaries]] or [[Consumerium Process]] or [[Product recognition]] | |||
:Good work mostly. Before [[Consumerium timeline]] becomes a revert war, it would be useful to have one past history, and the future goals it relates to, maybe milestones and a definition of [[pilot]]. And [[speed]] matters, but what is really required is some stopwatch results on how much time real people spend really shopping, and how much they can or could spare with their hands to flip through a book or look at a screen. Regarding [[AWR]], [[trolls]] will attempt to formulate general [[Consumerium:policy]] that is not offensive but doesn't always require reference to the worst example in the wikisphere by name. | |||
:Also, before we get too used to it, what about the name "code.consumerium" rather than "develop.consumerium" ? Though there's more to developing than code. | |||
::No way. I already pissed our root of by requesting the original devel. to be changed to develop. we also have http://en.consumerium.org and http://fi.consumerium.org available for use now. These are distinct from http://www.consumerium.org due to the enlightened advice from our root that we should www. as a place to store non-lingual comics or stuff about consumerium. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] | |||
:Also presumably there is "research." or "buy." or "signal.", these are in different languages, so "en.consumerium", "fr.consumerium" might be better to make [[standard wiki URI]]s. Research in each language can be at /wiki/ while the un-wiki'd URI (like http://en.consumerium.org/Nike) always has the [[Signal Wiki]] content - since only a very few people can edit at that stage. That keeps the language subdomaining the same as [[Wikipedia]] for [[standard wiki URI]], and differentiates signal and research only in the end of the URI. | |||
::Good points. But how do we make the [[Consumerium Process]] work so that people don't go straight to [[Signal Wiki]] to write stuff that should be in [[Research wiki]]. We could have either '''signined articles''' and/or '''unedited for some period of time''' automatically sucked into signal wiki. We should still consider [[Language vs. Area]] questions before setting that we use language as primary divider and area sensitive information goes however it does. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] | |||
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18.3.2004 | |||
The [[Development Wiki]] has now moved to <tt>http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/</tt> with rewrite in the old <tt>http://www.consumerium.org</tt> so that all requests to the <tt>wiki/</tt>-subdirectory get rewritten to use the new domain. This leaves the <tt>www</tt>-subdomain available for something else. | |||
Contacted J�rg Schulenburg, the author of [[GORC]], a [[GPL]] Optical Character Recognition softaware by email. It looks like GORC could be used as [[product recognition]] server software. | |||
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17.3.2004 | |||
Ok. It seems that my ugly hacks got rc4 finally up and running. I've been fighting to get this work all day. If something seems broken, please email me. Sorry for being out of service. I should be more careful in the future when upgrading or changing the configuration --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 21:11, 17 Mar 2004 (EET) | |||
<s>As a result of a major mistake in updating from rc3 to rc4 I have temporarily '''downgraded to pre [[October]] [[2003]] installation, which may or may not work'''. Please bear with me. I'm working on it but have some curious problems on getting the newest or even second newest or third newest install working. '''I've locked the database, as a security measure that we don't mess the database structure and that no edits are lost, so editing is no longer possible for the time being.'''</s> | |||
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14.3.2004 | |||
I will think for a while. I may be onto something or maybe not, but I will think instead of arguing over [[Interwiki link standard]] or other minor details. | |||
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13.3.2004 | |||
I've sent an email to robf who is the manager of http://sourceforge.net/projects/upcdatabase/ , which has it's home-site at http://www.upcdatabase.com/ to inquire about the [[copyright]] status of the databases they offer. If the copyright enables us to use the upcdatabase, then it surely will be one of the [[essential projects]] | |||
:UPDATE: The database is licensed under [[GPL]], which is a bit strange considering that there is no program code but just database entries | |||
::Can we test its completeness? A good test would be if it includes the obscure [[scary food]] products! | |||
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