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[[Image:Trollboele.jpg|thumb|right|500px|Welcome to Trollböle, lit. abode of the trolls]]
The word [[troll]] is applied to many diverse heretics, dissidents, and other disagreers in various contexts.  They seem to reject joining social clubs and accepting [[groupthink|group-defined concepts of politeness]].  It isn't clearly why, but, trolls sometimes say they are engaged in a battle of "empathy" *against* "eloquence" - the latter being an attribute of liars, frauds, con men, cheaters, politicians, and [[artificial intelligence]].  
The word [[troll]] is applied to many diverse heretics, dissidents, and other disagreers in various contexts.  They seem to reject joining social clubs and accepting [[groupthink|group-defined concepts of politeness]].  It isn't clearly why, but, trolls sometimes say they are engaged in a battle of "empathy" *against* "eloquence" - the latter being an attribute of liars, frauds, con men, cheaters, politicians, and [[artificial intelligence]].  


The role of '''trolls''' in [[Consumerium]] is unclear.  There is not even an agreement on what is a [[troll]] and what they generally do.  What is clear is that some think it is insulting to call someone a troll, and others take pride in being trolls, or called trolls.  If you read "[[Trolls]] believe..." or "[[Trolls]] request..." or other use of "'''trolls'''" as a [[pronoun]], that is a sure sign you are dealing with someone who self-identifies with trolls.  Such people can be assumed to share IP numbers to get around blocks, to freely offer passwords to each other, quote each others texts without any attribution, and to [[foment ambiguity]] in ways that make it simply impossible to tell "who wrote what", at least [[beyond a reasonable doubt]].
The role of '''trolls''' in [[Consumerium]] is unclear.  There is not even an agreement on what is a [[troll]] and what they generally do.  What is clear is that some think it is insulting to call someone a troll, and others take pride in being trolls, or called trolls.  If you read "[[Trolls]] believe..." or "[[Trolls]] request..." or other use of "'''trolls'''" as a [[pronoun]], that is a sure sign you are dealing with someone who self-identifies with trolls.  Such people can be assumed to share IP numbers to get around blocks, to freely offer passwords to each other, quote each others texts without any attribution, and to [[foment ambiguity]] in ways that make it simply impossible to tell "who wrote what", at least [[beyond a reasonable doubt]]. They can also be assumed to be a single person who is simply too cowardly to take responsibility for anything he says; see [http://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/index.php?title=Craig_Hubley&oldid=5060 the pre-censorship version] of [[Craig Hubley]] for one such assumption, probably by a bunch of [[witch hunt|corrupt Wikimedian sysop-vandals]].


Because they discount [[identity]] but usually claim to represent or protect [[some body]], '''trolls''' will usually cluster around something they wish to protect.  Often this is something of symbolic importance such as [[ape mother]]s or the root of their culture, the [[world tree]].  Those who disrespect such basic elements of troll culture can expect to be [[driven off by trolls]].  It is sometimes the case that the [[roots of empathy]], which trolls confuse with the roots of the world tree perhaps, can be reached by some process of mutual gnawing.  Rather than patronize a "village pump", since they reject "community" metaphors, one is more likely to find trolls doing a [[Consumerium:trollgnaw]].
Because they discount [[identity]] but usually claim to represent or protect [[some body]], '''trolls''' will usually cluster around something they wish to protect.  Often this is something of symbolic importance such as [[ape mother]]s or the root of their culture, the [[world tree]].  Those who disrespect such basic elements of troll culture can expect to be [[driven off by trolls]].  It is sometimes the case that the [[roots of empathy]], which trolls confuse with the roots of the world tree perhaps, can be reached by some process of mutual gnawing.  Rather than patronize a "village pump", since they reject "community" metaphors, one is more likely to find trolls doing a [[Consumerium:trollgnaw]].
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Thus trolls are atomic ''[[agent provocateur|agents provocateurs]]'' and vital to [[grassroots]] process.  
Thus trolls are atomic ''[[agent provocateur|agents provocateurs]]'' and vital to [[grassroots]] process.  


Usually the label ''troll'' simply indicates that someone considers them pests or [[usurper]]s.  
Usually the label ''troll'' simply indicates that someone considers them pests or [[usurper]]s. They do not usually fit clearly as part of any clique or group of [[Consumerium:We|"friends"]] or [[Consumerium:Enemy|"enemies"]], but often just deny any goal but [[truth]]. They are a faction by default, only because they do not clearly identify with any other faction or accept any other guidance.


However, for precisely these reasons, they are the most useful in discovering the limitations of existing terminology, categories, and assumptions, especially those related to the [[sysop power structure]] that labels them. A [[troll-friendly]] [[large public wiki]] can expect some problems and challenges and drop-outs from people who can't develop the [[political virtues]] quickly enough. However it presumably gains and exploits those who are marginalized or abused elsewhere, which suits the progressive values of [[Consumerium:itself]].  
However, for precisely these reasons, they are the most useful in discovering the limitations of existing terminology, categories, and assumptions, especially those related to the [[sysop power structure]] that labels them. A [[troll-friendly]] [[large public wiki]] can expect some problems and challenges and drop-outs from people who can't develop the [[political virtues]] quickly enough. However it presumably gains and exploits those who are marginalized or abused elsewhere, which suits the progressive values of [[Consumerium:itself]].  
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