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    ''Found objectionable by some as over-extending the definition of objectification:'''
    ''Found objectionable by some as over-extending the definition of objectification:'''


    For example mention of [[Jennifer Love Hewitt]] is probably an invocation of a sexually attraction or celebrity pattern, not likely much to do with the woman herself as a person.
    For example mention of [[Jennifer Love Hewitt]] is probably an invocation of a sexual attraction or celebrity pattern, not likely much to do with the woman herself as a person.


    === extreme examples ===
    === extreme examples ===
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    Some think that rape is not a subject-object problem, it's a gross crime that is just randomly done 99% by men on women in societies where women are subject to [[objectification]] via [[advertising]] etc.  This is not what [[w:feminism|feminist critics]] tend to believe.


    Others feel that if there is a priestly hierarchy somewhere imposing their god's eye view on others one can simply go somewhere else...  This is often quite possible, but not when there is only one [[GFDL corpuos access provider]] claiming the right to have [[link-back]]s only to its own version of articles, e.g. [[Wikimedia corruption]], grossly inflating itself in the [[google count]].  In these circumstances one can't "leave" but actually has to "fight".
    Others feel that if there is a priestly hierarchy somewhere imposing their god's eye view on others one can simply go somewhere else...  This is often quite possible, but not when there is only one [[GFDL corpus access provider]] claiming the right to have [[link-back]]s only to its own version of articles, e.g. [[Wikimedia corruption]], grossly inflating itself in the [[google count]].  In these circumstances one can't "leave" but actually has to "fight".
     
    == elegato ==
     
    elegato man
    http://whygiveup.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8705&p=14081#p14081
    http://www.coalitionoftheunwilling.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=120434&p=135796#p135796
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    http://www.clikhosting.co.uk/communities/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2449&p=4414#p4414
    http://larepubblicadellebanane.net/Ospiti_7sins/viewtopic.php?p=59120#59120
    http://www.given2me.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1859&p=10240#p10240
    http://www.lisahannamp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85777&p=105776#p105776
    http://www.newbcast.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=35720&p=55979#p55979
    http://www.gradinisiplante.ro/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9602#9602
    http://www.kychembil.org/foro/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=59598&p=63889#p63889
    http://migraineimpact.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=9233#9233
    http://phpsites1.internaldev.com/nchw/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=251273&p=361257#p361257
    http://forum.itt3dpoopart.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1111&p=9723#p9723
    http://psychomoto.de/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=117311#117311
    http://www.fortmyersbeach.biz/talk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=54021&p=69017#p69017
    http://hrmadvice.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14899&p=24705#p24705
    http://sweetcheeksscrapbooks.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=121320&p=164517#p164517
    http://ichatusa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=558959&p=680977#p680977
    http://rawautos.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1610&p=27896#p27896
    http://www.starcraft2forum.ro/viewtopic.php?p=8285#8285
    http://carolpiercedesign.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7456&p=10023#p10023
    http://www.ludypaez.com/foros/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=700&p=1213#p1213
    http://www.thec3forums.com/showthread.php?92-discount-autocad-2009&p=232#post232
    http://forum.grparkeriii.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8124&p=11244#p11244
    http://www.chargemeless.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=174937&p=352333#p352333
     
    The sixth is by having a list of subscribers that a single can refer to each and every so usually, mainly because they're those which would prove to be valuable assets for your marketer concerned.  The use of autoresponders and personalized newsletters is a single way of maintaining track of them all, and holding on to them by letting them know about new items and providers is an vital activity that need to be carried out through the affiliate marketer involved.

    Latest revision as of 13:35, 2 July 2010

    Found objectionable by some as over-extending the definition of objectification:'

    For example mention of Jennifer Love Hewitt is probably an invocation of a sexual attraction or celebrity pattern, not likely much to do with the woman herself as a person.

    extreme examples[edit source]

    God's Eye View is an example of subject object issue that create or justify extreme unequal power relationships, those being, between priestly hierarchy and ordinary worshippers. These relationships are simply imposed by force on an unwilling object who is forced to submit to them, regardless of consequences. Some believe colonialism is also a product of exactly the same phenomena, and that technological escalation is closely related to these same issues.

    One could as a less extreme example include the definition of trolls into existence by a priestly hierarchy of sysops loyal to their GodKing.



    Others feel that if there is a priestly hierarchy somewhere imposing their god's eye view on others one can simply go somewhere else... This is often quite possible, but not when there is only one GFDL corpus access provider claiming the right to have link-backs only to its own version of articles, e.g. Wikimedia corruption, grossly inflating itself in the google count. In these circumstances one can't "leave" but actually has to "fight".

    elegato[edit source]

    elegato man http://whygiveup.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8705&p=14081#p14081 http://www.coalitionoftheunwilling.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=120434&p=135796#p135796 http://www.pashalake.com/mboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=68&p=134#p134 http://www.clikhosting.co.uk/communities/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2449&p=4414#p4414 http://larepubblicadellebanane.net/Ospiti_7sins/viewtopic.php?p=59120#59120 http://www.given2me.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1859&p=10240#p10240 http://www.lisahannamp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=85777&p=105776#p105776 http://www.newbcast.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=35720&p=55979#p55979 http://www.gradinisiplante.ro/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9602#9602 http://www.kychembil.org/foro/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=59598&p=63889#p63889 http://migraineimpact.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=9233#9233 http://phpsites1.internaldev.com/nchw/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=251273&p=361257#p361257 http://forum.itt3dpoopart.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1111&p=9723#p9723 http://psychomoto.de/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=117311#117311 http://www.fortmyersbeach.biz/talk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=54021&p=69017#p69017 http://hrmadvice.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14899&p=24705#p24705 http://sweetcheeksscrapbooks.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=121320&p=164517#p164517 http://ichatusa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=558959&p=680977#p680977 http://rawautos.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1610&p=27896#p27896 http://www.starcraft2forum.ro/viewtopic.php?p=8285#8285 http://carolpiercedesign.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7456&p=10023#p10023 http://www.ludypaez.com/foros/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=700&p=1213#p1213 http://www.thec3forums.com/showthread.php?92-discount-autocad-2009&p=232#post232 http://forum.grparkeriii.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8124&p=11244#p11244 http://www.chargemeless.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=174937&p=352333#p352333


    The sixth is by having a list of subscribers that a single can refer to each and every so usually, mainly because they're those which would prove to be valuable assets for your marketer concerned. The use of autoresponders and personalized newsletters is a single way of maintaining track of them all, and holding on to them by letting them know about new items and providers is an vital activity that need to be carried out through the affiliate marketer involved.