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factional squabbling preventing work towards this
(To me it seems that that the order of Language and Service is a question of semantic rationale...)
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To me it seems that that the order of [[Language]] and [[Service]] is a question of semantic rationale and not that the current syntax is bad, it's just the syntax it is now and we are going to have to work with it. Note that [[interwiki]] seems to originate in usemod-[[wiki]] where languages were not a question to consider since it's designed to handle only English.
To me it seems that that the order of [[Language]] and [[Service]] is a question of semantic rationale and not that the current syntax is bad, it's just the syntax it is now and we are going to have to work with it. Note that [[interwiki]] seems to originate in usemod-[[wiki]] where languages were not a question to consider since it's designed to handle only English.
:"interwiki" is worthless, because it's technology-dependent AND language-dependent.  Forget it.  The semantic rationale is simple and absolute:  one works in one language at a time, almost always, and switches services within that language.  The [[MediaWiki]]/[[GetWiki]] syntax IS bad, and we DON'T have to work with it.  Among other things we can just do it right in anchor text, and later use a bot to fix the links, when the software works properly.  There is for instance no problem with saying [[w:fr:anomie|fr:wikipedia:anomie]] for now, and fixing it later.  Consider this a bug workaround.
:The recent [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2004-May/000039.html expansion of wiktionary to all 162 languages] points out yet another problem.  When a service forks into multiple services, old links to <nowiki>[[en:]]</nowiki> and <nowiki>[[fr:]]</nowiki> and other languages do not refer to the alternate language of that same service, but to "English Wikipedia" and "French Wikipedia".  That's because en: and fr: do not mean "that language" but a specific service in that language.  This is wrong, and just proves the need for the standard and order <nowiki>[[language:service:subspace:name]]</nowiki>.
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Squabbling among [[M.R.M. Parrot]], [[Tim Starling]], [[Erik Moeller]], and other highly ideological developers who seem to believe in [[developer vigilantiism]] rather than actually researching and meeting user requirements, seems to have stalled any progress towards a serious [[interwiki link standard]].  Perhaps part of a [[Peace Process]] is resolving this as well.
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