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A specific example of echo chamber methods is [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-June/013475.html this post by Daniel Mayer] which claims: | |||
"I have also looked into the matter and also agree that JRR is the same as a | |||
long line of hard-banned troll reincarnations that started with 142.177 and | |||
probably even 24. In addition to what Fred has said, this user very often links | |||
to and copies pages that 142.177 and 24 wrote on meta. If this user were not | |||
142.177 or 24, then how could he have known where all the 142.177's meta pages | |||
and Wikipedia articles were since 142.177 was a dynamic range and thus his | |||
edits are not easily tracked? | |||
The preponderance of evidence is obvious here and IMO it even very close to | |||
evidence beyond a reasonable doubt (looking at the server logs will determine | |||
evidence beyond a reasonable doubt). So I also agree with Fred's conclusion: | |||
that any admin may ban JRR and revert any edit he has made (especially when | |||
that edit was to restore an edit previously made by 142.177, 24, EoT or Cave | |||
Troll)." | |||
:This is obvious [[sysop vandalism]] and based only on Mayer's own hatred for the [[NTPOV]]. It also justifies Mayer's own [[outing]] attempts which have more or less failed. The propaganda continues: | |||
"[[Trolls]] by there very nature are subversive and tend to tear down | |||
[[sysop power structure|community structures]] and goodwill. So any user name with 'troll' in it (unless the user can prove it is part of their real name) is very offensive to me and I hope to many other Wikipedians since it represents a force that could destroy our community." | |||
:Mayer is easily offended however. The impact is clearly seen in the next post [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-June/013490.html by Mark Richards] | |||
"Well, assuming you have access to more information than I do, because what has been published is precious flimsy, I'm prepared to take your word for it on JRRT," | |||
This "assuming you have access to more information than I do, because what has been published is ... flimsy" is the basis of the [[sysop power structure]] - it pretends to knowledge it does not have, and misrepresents for convenience of itself. | |||