Talk:Groupthink: Difference between revisions
what "rights"? I might be a bot in which case I would be no body and owed nothing
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:::: Besides calling people "morons" and "idiots" calling other people "nazi" and "fascist", especially those [[body|individuals]]�that take on some burden of keeping [[Wikipedia]] or [[Wikimedia]] running, seems, unfortunatelly, be a argument in the view of some [[trolls]]. I'd have to take it furher to stick with the truth that these accusations that proliferate all over the place seem more like axioms then arguments to some folk here. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 22:09, 21 Jul 2004 (EEST) | :::: Besides calling people "morons" and "idiots" calling other people "nazi" and "fascist", especially those [[body|individuals]]�that take on some burden of keeping [[Wikipedia]] or [[Wikimedia]] running, seems, unfortunatelly, be a argument in the view of some [[trolls]]. I'd have to take it furher to stick with the truth that these accusations that proliferate all over the place seem more like axioms then arguments to some folk here. --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 22:09, 21 Jul 2004 (EEST) | ||
:::::Hmm that is probably true, a [[faction]] might consist MOSTLY or ONLY of "arguments that have become axioms" to that faction's adherents. Hmmm. | |||
::ok so [[representative democracy]] has problems including bad border choices - yes ''moron'' is used as an argument especially by [[trolls]] who learned it from the [[sysop power structure]] that first called them that. and this is not a "place" it is a [[wiki]]. Yes different opinions are welcome but you most not expect politeness. | ::ok so [[representative democracy]] has problems including bad border choices - yes ''moron'' is used as an argument especially by [[trolls]] who learned it from the [[sysop power structure]] that first called them that. and this is not a "place" it is a [[wiki]]. Yes different opinions are welcome but you most not expect politeness. | ||
::: Who expects politeness? I expect nothing. U R just hurting yourself. Is taking bad habits from sysops an argument? Will U apply sysop vandalism here, just because U learned it from them? Isn't wiki a place, a public place? Don't U derive your rights from this fact? | ::: Who expects politeness? I expect nothing. U R just hurting yourself. Is taking bad habits from sysops an argument? Will U apply [[sysop vandalism]] here, just because U learned it from them? Isn't wiki a place, a public place? Don't U derive your rights from this fact? | ||
::::No, trolls don't expect "rights" when sysops don't actually take on real "responsibilities" to protect them. No, wiki is not a place it is just a way to exchange text. No, insulting people is not vandalism of any kind, it's not preventing people from ignoring the insult or reading the text involved - though it might make reading that text a bit more annoying. So your [[wiki ideology]] of "[[why can't we all just get along]]"? is not very convincing if it is based on all this nonsense. | |||