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::: Is ''moron'' used as an argument here in this place? Are different opinions not welcome? In competition factions define themselves by a lot of equivalence and a bit of negation. There R very rarely new ideas 2 solve existing problems. T permanent conflict enforces redrawing 2 save territory and 2 avoid attacking T hard problems.

:::::Hmm that is probably true, a [[faction]] might consist MOSTLY or ONLY of "arguments that have become axioms" to that faction's adherents. Hmmm.

::ok so [[representative democracy]] has problems including bad border choices - yes ''moron'' is used as an argument especially by [[trolls]] who learned it from the [[sysop power structure]] that first called them that. and this is not a "place" it is a [[wiki]]. Yes different opinions are welcome but you most not expect politeness.

::: Who expects politeness? I expect nothing. U R just hurting yourself. Is taking bad habits from sysops an argument? Will U apply sysop vandalism here, just because U learned it from them? Isn't wiki a place, a public place? Don't U derive your rights from this fact?

::: Who expects politeness? I expect nothing. U R just hurting yourself. Is taking bad habits from sysops an argument? Will U apply [[sysop vandalism]] here, just because U learned it from them? Isn't wiki a place, a public place? Don't U derive your rights from this fact?

::::No, trolls don't expect "rights" when sysops don't actually take on real "responsibilities" to protect them. No, wiki is not a place it is just a way to exchange text. No, insulting people is not vandalism of any kind, it's not preventing people from ignoring the insult or reading the text involved - though it might make reading that text a bit more annoying. So your [[wiki ideology]] of "[[why can't we all just get along]]"? is not very convincing if it is based on all this nonsense.

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 ::: Is ''moron'' used as an argument here in this place? Are different opinions not welcome? In competition factions define themselves by a lot of equivalence and a bit of negation. There R very rarely new ideas 2 solve existing problems. T permanent conflict enforces redrawing 2 save territory and 2 avoid attacking T hard problems.
+:::::Hmm that is probably true, a [[faction]] might consist MOSTLY or ONLY of "arguments that have become axioms" to that faction's adherents.  Hmmm.
 ::ok so [[representative democracy]] has problems including bad border choices - yes ''moron'' is used as an argument especially by [[trolls]] who learned it from the [[sysop power structure]] that first called them that.  and this is not a "place" it is a [[wiki]].  Yes different opinions are welcome but you most not expect politeness.
-::: Who expects politeness? I expect nothing. U R just hurting yourself. Is taking bad habits from sysops an argument? Will U apply sysop vandalism here, just because U learned it from them? Isn't wiki a place, a public place? Don't U derive your rights from this fact?
+::: Who expects politeness? I expect nothing. U R just hurting yourself. Is taking bad habits from sysops an argument? Will U apply [[sysop vandalism]] here, just because U learned it from them? Isn't wiki a place, a public place? Don't U derive your rights from this fact?
+::::No, trolls don't expect "rights" when sysops don't actually take on real "responsibilities" to protect them.  No, wiki is not a place it is just a way to exchange text.  No, insulting people is not vandalism of any kind, it's not preventing people from ignoring the insult or reading the text involved - though it might make reading that text a bit more annoying.  So your [[wiki ideology]] of "[[why can't we all just get along]]"?  is not very convincing if it is based on all this nonsense.