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| 142, please provide specifics and references for these claims.
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| :Doing so for new claims; However, since lies, [[libel]] and [[echo chamber]] fraud are freely spread on [[vile mailing list]]s run by [[Wikimedia]] without any such specifics or references, it might be abusive to require such documentation from their opponents; most specific references are in the sub-articles using the most infamous [[Wikimedia]] clowns as the universal bad example for how not to do [[wiki governance]].
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| :Is [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2004-June/000365.html being blocked in China] evidence of corruption? hm. [[Trolls]] would say no, but, [[sysop power structure]] would have to respect China's [[power structure]] and their pet sysops who are their friends in fascist power plays. - [[w:User:Plato/red_faction|hail to the red faction]]!
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| The partially released [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2004-June/000370.html results] of the [[Wikimedia Board of Trustees]] "election" proves what [[trolls]] have always said: it is a front for the [[sysop power structure]]:
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| "The top 3 for contributing rep were:
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| Anthere 269
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| Eloquence 258 ([[Erik Moeller]])
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| Maveric149 163 (([[Daniel Mayer]])
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| The top 2 for for volunteer rep:
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| Angela 345 ([[Auntie Angela]])
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| Maveric149 159" ([[Daniel Mayer]])
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| Moved from [[Wikimedia corruption]]
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| *withholding full [[Wikimedia Board of Trustees]] election results from the voters! [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2004-June/000360.html apparently there will be NO release of figures (!), even on a sitewide basis, according to directives by Jimbo] the [[GodKing]] of Wikimedia and [[Bomis]]
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| ::This is not true. Imran and Danny have decided to not release full results apparently because some candidates wished they not be released. This has been critisized in the #wikipedia IRC channel recently and a plan is proposed that all results of those candidates who agree to releasing their votecounts would be released and those withholding would just look silly.
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| :::Sorry, this was true when written, and, full disclosure is full disclosure. What were they trying to hide? Whether they succeeded in hiding it or not. It appears they were trying to hide just how many cronies could use their cronyism to score high in this "election"
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| ::::After taking up the issue with Danny here are the full election results http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_results --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 14:48, 19 Jun 2004 (EEST)
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| *no [[independent board]] free of influence from [[Bomis.com]] - although [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2004-June/000371.html "two of the current trustees don't seem to be active Wikimedians"], those being [[sock puppet]] votes of [[Jimbo Wales]]: his employees at that corporation.
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| :#Jimbo no longer works for Bomis, thus he has no employees at Bomis
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| :#Michael Davis never worked there
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| :#Only Bomis employee on the board is Tim Shell
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| ::What absolute nonsense - Wales *OWNS* [[Bomis]]. And Davis has shares too apparently. This is a fairly transparent and bogus attempt to create a [[false front]] organization. And again, what are they hiding? Surely they realize they're doing something wrong, if they're quitting and pretending to set up these structures.
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| :::Ok. Ownership naturally leads to some power over current employees, but may I remind once again that it is not true that two of the [[independent board]] members work for Bomis.com, only Tim Shell works there
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