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'''Simple English Wikipedia''' is a source of [[glossary]] definitions that those with a less developed knowledge of English will be able to understand. See the [http://simple.wikipedia.org simple English Wikipedia] itself for more. | '''Simple English Wikipedia''' is a source of [[glossary]] definitions that those with a less developed knowledge of English will be able to understand. See the [http://simple.wikipedia.org simple English Wikipedia] itself for more. | ||
It had some potential to provide reliable simple briefings that would be a good way to explain what some more important terms mean in the elaborated version of the [[Consumerium buying signal]] that includes "Reasons to buy or not buy"... | |||
However in its present form the project cannot possibly serve that purpose, as it uses too poor a vocabulary and has no mission to be comprehensible or apply any clear standard or [[defining vocabulary]] discipline. It also refuses to consider or even discuss [[user demographic]] or [[user psychographic]] methods used in real world projects (like the [[user story]] approach) and has even been effectively taken over by a known [[inquisitor]]. Thus it has no role in Consumerium, and has effectively become one of the worst [[enemy projects]] - something that is not a basis for translation, for definition, and is driving off its most experienced contributors for what amount to [[ad hominem]] [[conflicts between users]] which arise solely out of [[witch-hunt]] tactics. | |||
Interestingly, it has reverted some of its [[IP block]]s, but legitimate but deleted material is not restored nor visible for ordinary user discussion, so the effect of this is simply to make the SEW somewhat more GFDL compliant, as text can be retrieved from these previously blocked IPs and used in much more responsible projects with no [[sysop vandalism]] which are more [[troll-friendly]]. Whether those in its [[sysop power structure]] need to be [[driven off by trolls]] so they do not also destroy ''this'' project, or any [[essential projects]] we care about, might even be discussed someday if there is a serious examination of the issues regarding [[Simple English]] and the degree to which Wikipedia abandons [[GodKing]]s to become [[troll-friendly]]. This seems unlikely in the near future. | |||
In the meantime, to submit any serious [[glossary]] or [[Simple English]] material directly to the SEW is to make it possibly unavailable in future, as with [[social network]], [[contact network]], [[power network]], etc., which are rather essential terms for discussing any [[power structure]] rationally. Unlike the SEW, [[Consumerium]] should deliberately explain these issues in the simplest terms so that anyone can help resolve a [[political dispute]]. This is not possible of course if these terms are not even defined in [[Simple English]], so, there will remain terms that by editorial policy are required to be part of [[Consumerium]] but which are subject to arbitrary out-of-process deletion at SEW or indeed any [[Wikimedia]] project ruled by their [[GodKing]]. | |||
In brief, avoid. Any project that deliberately wastes the time of Consumerium contributors is one of the [[enemy projects]] until it proves otherwise over a fairly long period of time, and actually engages the facts of governance and editorial issues we need resolved to cooperate with them. | |||
Latest revision as of 23:20, 7 January 2004
Simple English Wikipedia is a source of glossary definitions that those with a less developed knowledge of English will be able to understand. See the simple English Wikipedia itself for more.
It had some potential to provide reliable simple briefings that would be a good way to explain what some more important terms mean in the elaborated version of the Consumerium buying signal that includes "Reasons to buy or not buy"... However in its present form the project cannot possibly serve that purpose, as it uses too poor a vocabulary and has no mission to be comprehensible or apply any clear standard or defining vocabulary discipline. It also refuses to consider or even discuss user demographic or user psychographic methods used in real world projects (like the user story approach) and has even been effectively taken over by a known inquisitor. Thus it has no role in Consumerium, and has effectively become one of the worst enemy projects - something that is not a basis for translation, for definition, and is driving off its most experienced contributors for what amount to ad hominem conflicts between users which arise solely out of witch-hunt tactics.
Interestingly, it has reverted some of its IP blocks, but legitimate but deleted material is not restored nor visible for ordinary user discussion, so the effect of this is simply to make the SEW somewhat more GFDL compliant, as text can be retrieved from these previously blocked IPs and used in much more responsible projects with no sysop vandalism which are more troll-friendly. Whether those in its sysop power structure need to be driven off by trolls so they do not also destroy this project, or any essential projects we care about, might even be discussed someday if there is a serious examination of the issues regarding Simple English and the degree to which Wikipedia abandons GodKings to become troll-friendly. This seems unlikely in the near future.
In the meantime, to submit any serious glossary or Simple English material directly to the SEW is to make it possibly unavailable in future, as with social network, contact network, power network, etc., which are rather essential terms for discussing any power structure rationally. Unlike the SEW, Consumerium should deliberately explain these issues in the simplest terms so that anyone can help resolve a political dispute. This is not possible of course if these terms are not even defined in Simple English, so, there will remain terms that by editorial policy are required to be part of Consumerium but which are subject to arbitrary out-of-process deletion at SEW or indeed any Wikimedia project ruled by their GodKing.
In brief, avoid. Any project that deliberately wastes the time of Consumerium contributors is one of the enemy projects until it proves otherwise over a fairly long period of time, and actually engages the facts of governance and editorial issues we need resolved to cooperate with them.