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| Ok. This is a Blog, blog is just a web page where all the content is in reverse chronological order (kinda redundant: a blog in a wiki, but I'll see if this works). You may comment on posts if you like.
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| Special Thanks to [[User:Stephen Gilbert]] informing us about [http://www.adbusters.org/campaigns/opensource/greenscan/ Greenscan project] and vice-versa.
| | == 2022 == |
| | * [[User:Jukeboksi/Log/2022|Log 2022]] |
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| | * [[User:Jukeboksi/Log/2021|Log 2021]] |
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| | == 2020 == |
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| If you want to know what this is about search the net for "cuecat"
| | * [[User:Jukeboksi/Log/2020|Log 2020]] |
| <sub>(registered trademark of http://www.digitalconvergence.com/ )</sub>
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| Now I'm off the link harvest the Greenscan project pages.
| | == 2019 == |
| | * [[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/2019|Blog 2019]] |
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| Harvesting done. Enjoy. I put them in [[User:Juxo/Scratchpad]] because I just don't have the time to write proper articles on these. Maybe the articles should be written into [[Wikipedia]]. Let's give some back to the community, the 'pedia has given us so much resources. [[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 15:09 Jun 17, 2003 (EEST)
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| I still keep thinking about the [[licenses]], because if I had hastily started developing the actual [[software]] under [[GPL]] it would have lead to serious trouble (no way of verifying that the clients (or even worse: servers) aren't modified to do something they shouldn't). I still think it's safe to make the [[XML]] ([[ConsuML]] as the working draft name is at the moment) available under [[GPL]]... if someone adds something to the grammar that isn't supported by the processing software for some reason, then they get an error message, or the elements and attributes that are not recognised are ignored in the processing.
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/2018|Blog 2018]] |
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| Coming up soon [[The Consumerium Exchange]]... But before I take that on I'm going to have a shower, eat, try to relax and maybe see some friends.
| | == 2017 == |
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| 16.6.2003
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| Today I'm off to [[Wikipedia]] and Google to see if I can get some relevant [[Research|articles]] started.
| | == 2016 == |
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| I started [[w:List of company registers]] and plan on working on it regularly and I hope you contribute too since finding these using the ordinary search tools is not easy due to the widely varying naming policy of the register/office/agency/organisation handling these and I suppose one could see some national advantage in having these services difficult to find using the internet.
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/2016|Blog 2016]] |
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| Other significant finding today is [[OHMI]]. The databases they offer advance our effort greatly, if we can just negotiate unlimited access to them (Daily updated mirrors would do just nicely).
| | == 2015 == |
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| 15.6.2003
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| Today I'll see if I can scribble down something sensible about developing [[XML]], to aid the [[Sourceforge]] project get on it's way once it's started. Maybe I should surf a little to assess what grammars we should include in our [[interoperability]] goals.
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/2015|Blog 2015]] |
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| I just read the morning paper and the situation here in [[w:Finland|Finland]] is that all the three major mobile carriers are offering similar [[GPRS]]-deals: 100MB of GPRS data / month for under 20?, so it's likely that, at least here, [[Consumerium]] service [[deployment]] using [[XHTML]] [[UI]] over [[GPRS]] is quickly coming feasible. Finland is on the forefront of mobile technology adaption so the price and service competition is fierce in here, but I believe this case is similar to how sub 50$ fixed ADSL services spread from the US to rest of the developed countries.
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| gotta run now... switching to [[GPRS]] so the "flooding" will slow now ;)
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/2014|Blog 2014]] |
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| 14.6.2003
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| Did you know that there are approximatelly 48.179 different [[w:stock|stock]]s listed in [[w:List of stock exchanges|stock exchanges]] of the planet? Now you know. I'm going to get something to eat now.
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| I'm doing mostly browsing today and some editing in [[w:]], seems we have accumulated some info that is not in the 'pedia so it's time to give back to the community we can thank for great software and vast information sources.
| | == 2013 == |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/2013|Blog rest of 2013]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/February 2013|Blog February 2013]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/January 2013|Blog January 2013]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/February 2013|Blog February 2013]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/January 2013|Blog January 2013]] |
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| I'll try and avoid this senseless copy-paste-linking frenzy that's infested so many traditional sites ("Hey, look this site uses at least three of the same words as us, let's add a link to our links-page!").
| | == 2012 == |
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| Here's something that might turn into a precious gem from [[w:Economy of Earth]] if people just worked on it.
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/December2012|Blog December 2012]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/October2012|Blog October 2012]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/August2012|Blog August 2012]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/July2012|Blog July 2012]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/April2012|Blog April 2012]] |
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| That's it... totally IOD for today.
| | == 2010 == |
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| 13.6.2003
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| I'm in the process of '''looking for a job''' since my last job was only a 6 month contract and now I basically have no source of income and I've noticed that when being totally broke my brain doesn't work well at all. It's a total bummer not to be able to buy some food or a cup of coffee or whatever when going about your business. If you want to hire me you know how you can contact me. Preferably I'm looking for something that allows me to take a peek at [[consumerium]] throughout the day and maybe make a minor edit or two to be honest.
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| 12.6.2003
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| Yes! I'm writing this over [[Bluetooth]]+GPRS-connection. It's not fast and there seems to be some reliability problems, but it's freedom to contribute whenever I have my laptop and phone with me :)
| | == 2006 == |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/September2006|Blog September 2006]] |
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| We're celebrating [[L�SP�]] (actually L�SP� of 2002, which didn't get celebrated so we're doing it now) today, so I won't be working much on [[cium]] today and I'm leaving my ADSL for [[w:Helsinki]], but I have my [[3650]] with me so you can expect updates daily.
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| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/July2005|Blog July 2005]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/June2005|Blog June 2005]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/May2005|Blog May 2005]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/January2005|Blog January 2005]] |
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| I started
| | == 2004 == |
| *[[Consumerium:Village pump]] - New questions about how we should go about doing things in Consumerium goes here or if it's a question of a permanent sort then put it in [[Consumerium:FAQ]]
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| *[[Consumerium:Conventions]] is a page started because we seem to be in a state of lot of incoherence and once we reach [[consensus]] about some [[terminology]] or [[procedure]]s it goes [[Consumerium:Conventions|here]] and everything conflicting with it on other pages will be ruthlessly edited/axed. | | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/October2004|Blog October 2004]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/September2004|Blog September 2004]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/August2004|Blog August 2004]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/July2004|Blog July 2004]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/June2004|Blog June 2004]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/May2004|Blog May 2004]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/April2004|Blog April 2004]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/March2004|Blog March 2004]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/February2004|Blog February 2004]] |
| | *[[User:Jukeboksi/Blog/January2004|Blog January 2004]] |
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| *[[Polls]] - selfexplanatory
| | == 2003 == |
| | | *[[User:Juxo/Blog/December2003|Blog December 2003]] |
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| 10.6.2003
| | *[[User:Juxo/Blog/October2003|Blog October 2003]] |
| | | *[[User:Juxo/Blog/Archive/September2003]] |
| I lost my old phone or it got stolen so now I scraped up all the money I could get and bought a Nokia 3650 and got an GPRS-connection that should be operational tomorrow and after that I'm free to roam and work on [[cium]] at the same time. My initial reaction to the phone is good. [[Bluetooth]]+GPRS+[[camera]] allows me to draw a scetch on paper, take a photo and then put it on the net. A little simpler then using GIMP to do the same ;) As I suspected the people behind the codec is [[Hantro]], an [[w:Oulu]], [[w:Finland]] based company. I saw some of their codecs at a fair in 2000 and they were very impressive, even as low as 100kbps streams were just sheer magic. After that I haven't heard or seen any of this company in the public, but they rule when it comes to codecs.
| | *[[User:Juxo/Blog/Archive/August2003]] |
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| I installed some programs (packages are suffixed [[sis]]) mostly written in [[Cplusplus]] and I have to say I'm going to have to take a crash-course in C++ development since the programs perform really nicely and it seems to be the primary choice of language to implement [[Consumer Agent]]
| | *[[User:Juxo/Blog/Archive/June2003]] |
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| I know I haven't been as active as possible lately, but this could change for the better now that I can connect whenever I need to (just as soon as they get my connection operational)
| | *[[User:Juxo/Blog/Archive/April2003]] |
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| 6.6.2003
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| Today I contacted Prof. U.B. Lindstr�m and asked if he would like to contribute to the project. He is retired and to my understanding a normative authority in the field of [[organic]] farming, ecology, development and globalisation issues. Let's hope he has some time for us.
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| Also sent some email to http://adbusters.org to get us included on their links page and also contacted someone who might be able to help us in determining ownerships of US companies.
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| 5.6.2003
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| [[Baracoda Pencil]] is just what we need to get the UI Consumerium deserves. Great stuff by http://www.baracoda.com . Best regards to them!
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| http://archive.org doesn't have us indexed, but is that a bad or a good thing? I don't know. Stupid silly mistakes are forgotten, excpecially with little SQL, but on the other hand we can't track the development from the Archive later on and it's kind of annoying not to be in the archive.org.
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| :I just looked up the log and ia_archiver has been to the site on 6 different occasions starting from February so it's even stranger that we're not showing up in http://archive.org and, no, our robots.txt doesn't prohibit it from crawling. Go figure. [[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 19:42 Jun 5, 2003 (EEST)
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| 4.6.2003
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| I've noticed we don't have anything on [[Bluetooth]]. [[w:Bluetooth]] is not good and has errors. Since adaptation of Bluetooth is so crucial to our project we should have a special page just for tracking Bluetooth news.... things like Apple has integrated both WiFi and Bluetooth in their high-end PowerBook models and Sony's high-end DVs have also integrated Bluetooth.
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| 3.6.2003 the URLs are a pain. Can you get Wikipedia-like URLs working?
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| :They're not a pain, they're just not like on 'pedia. It can be done with mod_rewrite (Apache module) and I'll get on it tomorrow or the day after that
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| :This I don't follow. I've been thinking of setting up some static pages like "Executive Summary" and "Press releases", but there's much to wiki before this type of html-pages are a priority.
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| 2.6.2003
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| Something interesting going on at http://www1.ean-ucc.org/gdd/ (GDD == EAN.UCC Global Data Dictionary) I've just glanced at it and I'm not really sure what it really is but it's got a bunch of [[XML]] [[Schema]]s that make up maybe more then half of the markup needed for [[Consumerium]]. Keep an eye on this one, because EAN.UCC, is like big, in the area of identifying things.
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| Just wrote an article to http://indymedia.org . Propably a bad time due to the G8-summit going on at the moment. Also started [[User:Juxo/Main page draft|crafting a new front page]], with tables and some sort of hierarchy. This is not going to be an easy one, but the current front page is not good.
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| Today I heard on BBC World service that you can get the best profit margins in which continent? Surprise (or is it?)... Africa(!).
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| 31.5.2003
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| ''THE LAST EDIT BY ME WAS NOT BY ME! FUCKING SPOOFERS.'' I'LL DO A TRACEROUTE FROM WHERE I WAS ON 27.5.2003. to our serv and narrow down the possible offenders, though the password could have been compromised earlier on and I basically guess which company I can thank for this shit. Well, I changed my pass now...
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| Country side was lovely.
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| :where do consumers meet and talk together ? You know, I have an old memory. I was working in an [[w:organic food|organic farm]] during summer...counting on my fingers...14 years ago (whaouuu...I feel "old"). The moments I loved the most were
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| ::weeding some chinese vegetable or picking up tiny vegetables (potatoes). We were two people sitting in a row next to each other, chatting for hours about...why, when, how...our fingers were busy, and without thinking, we went to our business. So we could chat...and sometimes picked up a worm or an insect
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| ::the [[farmer's market]]. Where you buy [[w:local food]]. Early, we left in the truck. First we had restaurant people, they were often in a hurry. Did not talk much. Then, we had the [[Elves|HouseElves]], always cravings for chit chat. Part of our business :-). Later, we had the tourists, the wanderers. Chatting too. Last, we had the poors. Often, they felt guilty, and they hid themselves. I would have liked them to be the free consumers, but, I was not the boss. Then, we could come back. To another day of weeding, picking up and washing. Or lake swimming when it was too hot. The mature melon was so good. Such a long time ago. Farmers often talk when busy with their hands. If they have someone to talk to, poor souls.
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| Gone to the country side to relax.
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| 17.5.2003
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| I'm actually typing this in a military fort and I was a little surprised to find a connected machine at free disposal of the soldiers. I had to get up at 4 am after sleeping for 3 hours so I'm a little tired now and will get back to this on monday. [[Consumer]] [[Consortium]] == [[Consumerium]]. I like that 142.177.X.X :)
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| I run into Brion on IRC the other day and explained our need to have [[m:Geospatial reference]] so he started the page on Meta and hopefully someone will come up with a syntax that we can agree on and maybe one day it'll be implemented, which would be great for Consumerium. I'm off to do a few days of military service now. Back on monday, have a nice weekend you all.
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| 10.5.2003
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| Ehlo from [[w:Espoo]]. I should be back on my ADSL next week. Throat still sore.
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| 9.5.2003
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| I've had a slightly sore throat for sometime now and I'm trying to get over that so I can get back to some serious contributing. It seems that everyone is more interested in writing fancy declarations and describing elaborate concepts then getting down to the "real" work of specifying software components, which I understand because the one taking charge of the software development will have to face the issue of making it '''secure''', which is stressful.
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| 7.5.2003
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| You know what? I'm going to sleep now.
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| 6.5.2003
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| Ok. Recovered from the previous. I took some time off from work and I'm in [[w:Helsinki]] now to see some friends and relax. I will of course try to contribute as much as I can, but I'm currently under a lot of mental strain in my private life, so I'm not so efficient at the moment.
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| 30.4.2003
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| Good [[w:Walpurgis Day|Walpurgis Day]] (Vappu in Finnish, the celebration of students and workers in Finland) everybody. I'm going to get just '''totally drunk''' in [[w:Raisio|Raisio]] today and I'll propably continue the same tomorrow since it's a national tradition in [[w:Finland|Finland]] and it's good fun as well :)
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| I just stumbled upon http://www.vrxml.org, (Vendor Reporting...) I really can't figure out what it like _really_ is but at first glance it seems to be some effort by [[NYSE]] so standardize [[vendor]] contact information, which would be kind of nice if it pulled through, because then we could use [[VRXML]] (or just make our XML compatible to it) to identify companies, their subdivisions and contact people withing companies (For arranging feedback and up-to-date company info and such)
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| I don't know exactly what they ([[NYSE]]) mean by [[vendor]] or why they want monthly reports of [[inventory]]. I don't see how it should intrest a [[stock exchange]] what is the inventory of some company... I mean that if the inventory goes down, then liquid assets usually go up and vice-versa, so what does that have to do with trading stocks??
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| From there on I followed some link and found out that there is an [[w:ISO]] standard for identifying subdivisions of countries (States, Provinces and such): [[ISO 3166-2]] Codes for the representation of names of countries and their subdivisions -- Part 2: Country subdivision code
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| The bad news is that a copy of the standard costs CHF 194,00, which is a lot of money and I personally am so broke at the moment and if I got some I would buy a bluetooth phone, so I could connect to the net, when I'm away from my ethernet. I guess we'll just have to use [[Wikipedia]] to get country divisions.
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| ::Noooo. We'll implement identification of multiple overlapping geographical areas. Mainly [[country]], [[province]] [[village]] (includes cities), [[ecoregion]] and the joins of the before mentioned (eg. Some countries form an [[free trade area]]). If I'm missing something essential, please add it.
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| Yeeees. The new Safari update finally arrived. Tabbed browsing is very nice.<br>
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| Oh Noooo. I'm so convinced that my system is compromised, not the one running the wiki, but my iBook. I just have to hope that the firmware is still good, so reinstalling the OS will cure the problem:
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| If someone knows if there is a hotkey to put a password lock on in Mac OS X, please let me know. I dislike going to System Preferences all the time to turn screen saver locking on and off.
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| :sorryyyyy, still on 9. Good night.
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| 28.4.2003
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| Today I have burn-out and I don't have the strength to read through your todays contributions or to contribute myself. I hope to get myself together soon and join the effort again. I'll read through the new material soon.
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| Back on ADSL. Houston we have a problem: I have to admit that I would lie to keep a job if I really needed it and I imagine there are lots of other people that would do the same. I would even lie not to make my employer look bad and thus decrease the livelyhood of my fellow employees.
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| Helo. I'm in [[w:Tampere]] now. I stumbled upon this internet bus that is a free service provided by the library of tampere :) Respect to library of tampere. I just wrote a stub on [[Consumerium:Philosophy]], alert the hordes of trolls.
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| 16.4.2003
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| I'm going away to the country side to relax and enjoy the quitness over Easter, so please don't vandalise anything while I'm gone and if you do it won't last that long. mysqldump rules ok. Have a nice Easter you all. Oh, and I grabbed also a copy of http://meta.wikipedia.org so I'll have a good idea where should we target our efforts there when I get back.
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| I appologise for being so immature as to get all worked up by some advanced [[w:Internet Troll|Troll]]. Now I'm finally off to the woods to contemplate on the meaning of Easter.
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| 15.4.2003 16:45 UTC+2
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| Wrote an small article on [[Consumerium]] in [[Wikipedia]]. Next I'll go for gross overlinking from anything and everything and meaningless minor edits to [[w:Consumerium]] to keep it popping up in Recent Changes. hehhehheehheehheehh *grin*
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| :[http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Environmental_scares Paul R. Lees-Haley's description of how scares are caused is interesting] in context of consumerium - because, people will try to influence buying with phony scares, so how does consumerium ensure information is accurate or balanced properly?
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| Excellent additions at [[XML/DTD]] by some IP. Especially the stuff on [[w:ecoregion]].
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| Also go see [http://www.responsibleshopper.org responsible shopper] it's really convergent with our goal. We should contact them to discuss synergy matters.
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| Some fanatic [[w:Internet Troll]] from 142.177.X.X (which seems to be in Canada) is really wearing me out. This troll is very advanced: cross-defining terms mixed with useful input mixed with malformed grammar mixed with links to strange discussions and very talented in getting pseudo-offended when I reverse edits.
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| 7.4.2003
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| Ok. Back online with my most trustworthy operator and I changed my pass also so there shouldn't be anymore severe security breaches like the f***ing vandalists who tinted the 0.1 logo centre yellow, which was really offensive and pissed off lots of ppl. If someone has GIMP and an idea for logo 0.3 it's most welcome. Must sleep now.
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| Today I'm in [[w:Helsinki]] now and I can't get access to freenode network from the local irc client here :( Maybe in future we set up an IRC channel #consumerium on freenode, but it's not a priority at the moment.
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| All the [[features]] should have names and their own dedicated page. I'll get on that.
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| Maybe we should have some products to play around with to illustrate the features, so here is an [[tomato]]
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| 27.3.2003
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| [http://www.aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de/~sst/is/WebOntologyLanguage/hayes.htm Here] is an interesting article providing some serious critique of using structured document to represent human knowledge. I've been very tempted to mix [[XML]] with some heavy [[Wiki]] for [[Consumerium]] before, but this makes it even more attractive.
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| :[[w:foundation ontology|Foundation ontology]] questions? Very sticky. Start with ecology, harder to go wrong.
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| Here is a link http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/03/19/standards.html to an interesting article. Dimitri Dimitriatis seems to have a clear perception of the need to identify the software components involved in web services. If the server and client components are GPL'd then there is no guarantee that the components function as specified in the "official" specification. Or is there? Wondering....
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| 21.3.2003
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| Ok. I'm going to Helsinki for the weekend, so please don't vandalise Consumerium while I'm gone. I'm taking a database dump with me, so I'll upload my edits on Sunday if I'm not too lazy/drunk on the weekend to do some work.
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| 21.3.2003
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| Today I'm mostly creating stubs for describing different [[features]] and their implementation in detail. Most [[feature]] pages are also used for laying out basic design principles. I'm starting with the simplest features and then working on to the more complex ones, so I can link the complex ones to the simpler ones which they build on.
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| Today I'm thinking about [[campaign]]s, they can be calls for [[boycott]] or [[endorsment]]. They can be targeted at individual [[product]]s [[product group]]s, [[brand]]s, [[company|companies]], [[corporation]]s, [[supply chain]]s or [[area]]s. Areas can be [[province]]s or [[country|countries]]. It just seems that the [[country|nation state]] is a little unprecise for an [[campaign]], but I don't have a better nominator for campaigning. Boycotting [[capital]] would be a really nice [[features|feature]], but it's [[utopia]] at the moment. There are numerous reasons why tracking capital is so difficult that it's [[not feasible]].
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| I'll get started on including markup for locations in wikipedia soon. It' just a really demanding task even just to write a good article and wikitech-l post about it so the idea woun't get torpedoed immediatelly.
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| 19.3.2003
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| Really tired today, so not doing much
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| 18.3.2003
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| I've been thinking about why on earth doesn't [[w:HTML]] or [[w:XHTML]] contain tags or meta-tags for connecting a document to a point (or an area) on earth.
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| :[http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/ecoregion_DTD ecoregion DTD] is good place to start.
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| This would be supergroovy if search engines supported searching for words with results ordered by physical location (very heavy search indeed, I've studied a course on GIS, and even done some work in that area, and I can tell you that multiple 1-dimensional search keys in [[relational algebra]] (that's like what the RDBMS translates SQL into before it is executed) is a picnic compared to even simplified 2-dimensional indexes, let alone if we want accurate real world 3d indexing (Buildings etc. have multiple floors you know.))
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| Now I have just one thought. '''Forget the web, let's do it for Wikipedia and the rest of the Web can catch up someday, maybe.'''
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| Throw in a standardised way of marking times up and voila: We have spatio-temporal data, that can be grouped and searched in numerous ways, if someone just coded the search engine and if we had some spare processing power for this tedious task.
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| :[http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/spacetime_DTD spacetime DTD] is doing this
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| :[http://p2pmap.org p2pmap] also is thinking of adopting it
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| :Thanks, I did. Mostly things already discussed but useful here for those who read this blog.
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| :Is there going to be a way to govern this thing other than talking to you on a blog? I like [http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/twelve_leverage_points 'leverage points' as used on meta.wikipedia.org to watch/steer wikipedia project] - very low-overhead, based on ecology model. Very applicable here as you try to change resourcing, production, distribution, consumption, and waste systems. Also see Jim Moore on 'assembly rules' for the 'second superpower'.
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| ::Well it seems we need something like [[w:Wikipedia:Village pump]]. Must think of a name for it.
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