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'''False and unsubstantiated claims''' appear often on the [[Wikipedia mailing list]] and other forums devoted to maintaining a [[clique]] in a position of power.  [[Power grab]]s are enabled by the tolerance of such claims without any means or standards to examine them, e.g. putting them in [[TIPAESA]] form, and restricting or preventing anyone from deleting or modifying them until they are answered to.
'''False and unsubstantiated claims''' appear often on the [[Wikipedia mailing list]] and other forums devoted to maintaining a [[clique]] in a position of power.  [[Power grab]]s are enabled by the tolerance of such claims without any means or standards to examine them, e.g. putting them in [[TIPAESA]] form, and restricting or preventing anyone from deleting or modifying them until they are answered to.


Some [[large public wiki]]s have a single [[GodKing]] to declare what constitute '''false''' or ''unsubstantiated'''.  This person is obviously in a [[conflict of interest]] regarding such claims made about his own utterances or claims.  Accordingly, [[corruption]], e.g. [[Wikimedia corruption]], is the only possible result of failing to have a single pipeline to resolve claims or issues that does not involve the person or people who are actually talked about.
Some [[large public wiki]]s have a single [[GodKing]] to declare what constitute '''false''' or '''unsubstantiated'''.  This person is obviously in a [[conflict of interest]] regarding such claims made about his own utterances or claims.  Accordingly, [[corruption]], e.g. [[Wikimedia corruption]], is the only possible result of failing to have a [[Consumerium Process|single pipeline to resolve claims or issues]] that does not involve the person or people who are actually talked about.


Of all such claims, those regarding [[alleged or collective identity]] are the most common, and hardest to control, given the mutability of [[identity on the Internet]].
Of all such claims, those regarding [[alleged and collective identity]] are the most common, and hardest to control, given the mutability of [[identity on the Internet]].


The problem with tolerating unlimited '''claims''' is that it exposes one to:
The problem with tolerating unlimited '''claims''' is that it exposes one to:
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It is also common to label fully substantiated and easily documented '''claims''' as "'''false'''" or "'''unsubstantiated'''" as a means of intimidating those who make them.  This tactic is seen for instance on both sides of [[troll-sysop struggle]] and has marked the [[GFDL corpus]] debate to a remarkable degree:  reducing the entire project to [[tabloid journalism]] at best, [[libel pit]] at worst, and rendering [[Wikipedia]] useless as reference for journalistic purposes.
It is also common to label fully substantiated and easily documented '''claims''' as "'''false'''" or "'''unsubstantiated'''" as a means of intimidating those who make them.  This tactic is seen for instance on both sides of [[troll-sysop struggle]] and has marked the [[GFDL corpus]] debate to a remarkable degree:  reducing the entire project to [[tabloid journalism]] at best, [[libel pit]] at worst, and rendering [[Wikipedia]] useless as reference for journalistic purposes.
[[Consumerium Services]] have been pressured to label [[Wikimedia corruption]] charges as '''false and unsubstantiated'''.  Most or all of which of these claims were fully substantiated and documented at one time, but subject to continous [[vandalism]] by a [[clique]] determed to obscure that very fact.  Over time, the influence of such cliques can be toxic and prevent any serious debate about policies.
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