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" | The word '''troll''' means many things, all important to the culture of [[trolling]] (of which [[Consumerium]] is necessarily a part, since it always will be perceived as "[[trolling]] perfect corporations with bad untrue things" until of course the corporation must admit that all the "trolling" is true - see [[Wikimedia]] and [[Bomis]] for examples of trolling that is totally true). | ||
If you don't like someone's manners, he is a troll. If you don't like | |||
a gadfly, he is a troll. If you don't like a philosopher, he is a | === definitions of the noun "troll" === | ||
*noun: angling by drawing a baited line through the water | |||
*noun: a fisherman's lure that is used in trolling (Example: "He used a spinner as his troll") | |||
*noun: a partsong in which voices follow each other; one voice starts and others join in one after another until all are singing different parts of the song at the same time | |||
*noun: (Scandanavian folklore) a supernatural creature (either a dwarf or a giant) that is supposed to live in caves or in the mountains or under the [[world tree]] | |||
=== definitions of the verb "to troll" === | |||
*verb: circulate, move around, e.g. "he [[trolled]] all the [[large public wiki]]s" | |||
*verb: speak or recite rapidly or in a rolling voice | |||
*verb: praise or celebrate in song (Example: "All tongues shall troll you") | |||
*verb: sing loudly and without inhibition, especially the [[USENET troll song]] | |||
*verb: angle with a hook and line drawn through the water | |||
*verb: sing the parts of (a round) in succession, especially [[heroic songs about trolls]] | |||
*verb: cause to move round and round (Example: "The child trolled her hoop", "the [[Lowest Troll]] trolled the [[sysop vandalism|sysop-vandal]] [[fork off|off]] to other [[large public wiki]]s, but it always came back") | |||
=== Internet trolls === | |||
On the Internet, "today, the word troll are both verb and noun, and are applied loosely to any outsider. If you don't like someone's manners, he is a troll. If you don't like a gadfly, he is a troll. If you don't like a philosopher, he is a | |||
troll. If you don't like a inquirer, he is a troll. If you don't like | troll. If you don't like a inquirer, he is a troll. If you don't like | ||
a humorist, he is a troll. If you don't like a teacher, he is a troll. | a humorist, he is a troll. If you don't like a teacher, he is a troll. | ||
If you don't like witches, they are, well, witches and must be | If you don't like witches, they are, well, witches and must be | ||
witch-hunted." ''(see [[ad hominem]] and [[witchhunt]])''. "Thusly, from weirdo to witches, from teachers to philosophers, from gadfly to firebrand, from loner to gay, they are | witch-hunted." ''(see [[ad hominem]] and [[witchhunt]])''. "Thusly, from weirdo to witches, from teachers to philosophers, from gadfly to firebrand, from loner to gay, they are all trolls online at your call. Quick spun the guild of killfilers and troll-criers. Anyone who has contrariwise things to say or the manner of saying it is a troll." - [http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/troll_ignorance.html "troll ignorance", Xah Lee] | ||
all trolls online at your call. Quick spun the guild of killfilers and | |||
troll-criers. Anyone who has contrariwise things to say or the manner | |||
of saying it is a troll." - [http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/troll_ignorance.html "troll ignorance", Xah Lee] | |||
"I find that the term "troll" means pretty | "I find that the term "troll" means pretty | ||
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"...a term of abuse that is levelled both at genuinely problematic users and | "...a term of abuse that is levelled both at genuinely problematic users and | ||
users with contentious but potentially legitimate views." - [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-May/012438.html Mark Richards] | users with contentious but potentially legitimate views." - [http://mail.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-May/012438.html Mark Richards] | ||
=== trolls vs. sysops === | |||
Obviously, under these definitions, we are all trolls from time to time, that is, we are all likely to be in some [[dispute]] or [[conflict between users]] and then if there is some [[sysop power structure]], we can be labelled "troll" and so marginalized. This is a fairly typical process, not different from authorship: | Obviously, under these definitions, we are all trolls from time to time, that is, we are all likely to be in some [[dispute]] or [[conflict between users]] and then if there is some [[sysop power structure]], we can be labelled "troll" and so marginalized. This is a fairly typical process, not different from authorship: | ||
"The author does not precede the works; he is a certain functional principle by which, in our culture, one [[limits, excludes, chooses and impedes]] the [[free circulation of fiction]]." - [[Michel Foucault]] | "The author does not precede the works; he is a certain functional principle by which, in our culture, one [[limits, excludes, chooses and impedes]] the [[free circulation of fiction]]." - [[Michel Foucault]] | ||
The sysops stand for the old guard's [[systemic bias]] and prejudices and will cooperate always to exclude the [[New Troll point of view]]. [[Trolls]] on the other hand will always seek to invite the [[New Troll]] in, and assist them in their dealings with the [[Lowest Troll]], to ensure no [[groupthink]] can become standardized on the wiki. To side with sysops is to side with stagnation, while, to trolls, each new troll is itself a revolution incarnate. | |||
=== "troll-friendly" === | |||
One view of "real [[trolls]]" is that they are those who wilfully agree with Foucault and so reject both authorship and the association of authorship with fiction. To trolls, there is no such thing as an individual "troll", so the use of the term in the singular is confined to sysops. See [[w:Internet troll|Internet troll (Wikipedia)]] for examples of their anti-troll [[propaganda]] and [[m:troll|troll (Meta-Wikipedia)]] for a troll view, in which sysops are defined as simply "less mature individual troll personalities who have not yet found a group they can comfortably be trolls in". A hierarchy with the sysop (those who require technological power over others to feel they can belong) at the entry point, and the troll as the [[culminative outcome]], is formed. If this is desirable, then, troll-friendly [[wiki]]s are the best: | One view of "real [[trolls]]" is that they are those who wilfully agree with Foucault and so reject both authorship and the association of authorship with fiction. To trolls, there is no such thing as an individual "troll", so the use of the term in the singular is confined to sysops. See [[w:Internet troll|Internet troll (Wikipedia)]] for examples of their anti-troll [[propaganda]] and [[m:troll|troll (Meta-Wikipedia)]] for a troll view, in which sysops are defined as simply "less mature individual troll personalities who have not yet found a group they can comfortably be trolls in". A hierarchy with the sysop (those who require technological power over others to feel they can belong) at the entry point, and the troll as the [[culminative outcome]], is formed. If this is desirable, then, troll-friendly [[wiki]]s are the best: | ||