User talk:Juxo: Difference between revisions
oh and by the way, go to hell - talk time is over, as in Palestine, and as in many other places where people like yourself rule, Angela
(response to Angela - who has dealt with NONE of the substantial issues nor explained why someone who flip flops on policy should be trusted) |
(oh and by the way, go to hell - talk time is over, as in Palestine, and as in many other places where people like yourself rule, Angela) |
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However, that was not what you advocated earlier� | However, that was not what you advocated earlier� | ||
:No, I change my mind every half an hour. Women's prerogative. ;) It wasn't my first change of heart on the issue. I once fully defended [[w:user:BuddhaInside]]'s right to blank his talk page, and later argued strongly against that before he was banned. I also said RK had the right to remove criticisms from his talk page and that the [[w:User talk:172 sysop status|172 desysop page]] should be deleted, whilst later arguing that [[records are a good thing]] and the trail of RK's behaviour ought to be documented. | :No, I change my mind every half an hour. Women's prerogative. ;) | ||
::If so, then, you cannot conceivably be trusted with any enforcement oriented responsibilities, period. Which is in fact our position exactly about you and your abilities. Stick to writing and editing. Stay out of "who has a voice". | |||
:It wasn't my first change of heart on the issue. I once fully defended [[w:user:BuddhaInside]]'s right to blank his talk page, and later argued strongly against that before he was banned. I also said RK had the right to remove criticisms from his talk page and that the [[w:User talk:172 sysop status|172 desysop page]] should be deleted, whilst later arguing that [[records are a good thing]] and the trail of RK's behaviour ought to be documented. | |||
::And you have no problem with this kind of thing, or see why people consider this sort of changes of view on demand to be self-serving or politically self-selected? The GFDL does not say "...and submit to the sole editorial judgement of User:Angela". Which would not matter if others had equal power to yourself. Give up your sysop power, permanently, on every wiki, and cease to ask for ANY policy decision to be made or applied, i.e. talk only about the content of matters on talk pages, and we have no issue. You are out of your depth. GET out of it. STAY out of it. Leave depth to those who know depth, and can see the implications of policy decisions, what they mean for the future, and have some experience defining the missions of a [[large public wiki]]. | |||
But if you don't note that fact over at meta.wikipedia.org... | But if you don't note that fact over at meta.wikipedia.org... | ||
:I copied the above to Meta at the same time I wrote it here, almost identically worded. | :I copied the above to Meta at the same time I wrote it here, almost identically worded. | ||
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::Profound, pure, undiluted hate is a wonderful thing to experience, if it in fact comes from a genuine rejection of something abstract and via one's values. The best Christians can for instance truly hate The Devil and feel quite good about that, even if The Devil is an anonymous IP number or made up pseudonym. | ::Profound, pure, undiluted hate is a wonderful thing to experience, if it in fact comes from a genuine rejection of something abstract and via one's values. The best Christians can for instance truly hate The Devil and feel quite good about that, even if The Devil is an anonymous IP number or made up pseudonym. | ||
::There will be no debates about Wikipedia - it is an enemy project, and it will be destroyed. We will do our best to convince Consumerium not to use Mediawiki in the [[Content Wiki]] and [[Opinion Wiki]] phase, but to wait for better software that will almost certainly come out of the Metaweb project - they are using Mediawiki also for testing and R&D purposes, but they refer to their pages as "intermediate page format" implying strongly that they will be providing drastically better tools to suck in those pages and spit out useful semantic webs. Since this will work for that format, it'll work for Wikipedia pages too, and obsolete all the Wikipedian filth, including any need to have any conservation with such as yourself. Try to remember the wise words of Ferris Beuller: | ::There will be no more debates about Wikipedia - it is an enemy project, it is wasting vast amounts of talented people's time and damaging other talented peoples' reputations (is it REALLY valid to have a full page on Mel Gibson's alleged anti-semitism and NOTHING about the innovation of a Bible film in Aramaic word for word from the text? REALLY?) and therefore it will be destroyed. Every person who has attached their reputation to it will suffer, years from now, the word "Wikipedia" will mean "libel" the way that "dotcom" now means "fraud". | ||
::We will also do our level rational best to convince Consumerium not to use Mediawiki in the [[Content Wiki]] and [[Opinion Wiki]] phase, but to wait for better software that will almost certainly come out of the Metaweb project - they are using Mediawiki also for testing and R&D purposes, but they refer to their pages as "intermediate page format" implying strongly that they will be providing drastically better tools to suck in those pages and spit out useful semantic webs. Since this will work for that format, it'll work for Wikipedia pages too, and obsolete all the Wikipedian filth, including any need to have any conservation with such as yourself. Try to remember the wise words of Ferris Beuller: | |||
::"It's understanding that lets people like us, deal with people like yourself." | ::"It's understanding that lets people like us, deal with people like yourself." | ||
::And so it is for trolls, and you filth. | ::And so it is for trolls, and you Angela-type filth who think your judgement is supreme, you "masters of truth and justice". We understand you. And we hate you. Now get lost. You have all that you need to leave the net and make a serious change in yourself - if you reject all hate, for instance, then you may go be a Buddhist or something. If not, at least you might now know why so many brown and darker people around the world have been killing white colonists. For insisting on "more talk" while doing power play after power grab and more and more removing the grounds of privacy, economic and technology power from them, and allocating it to your friends. For being part of this, you of course deserve to die, and you will, but it won't be trolls who do it. We have bigger fish to fry. Now go to hell. It's waiting for folks like you. | ||