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+Interesting idea. This could be done by using [[w:Wikipedia:Template messages]] --[[User:Juxo|Juxo]] 12:33, 14 Jul 2004 (EEST) but the real question once again is that who wants to take on the burden of power of flagging some article [[approved]]/[[disapproved]]/[[should not exist]] on behalf of a faction and how will those persons be chosen or is there even a need to determine who can and who can't do such things on behalf of some [[faction]].
-A '''faction tag''' is a prefix to a page that says something like:
+Once again we run into the age-old problem of requiring a [[power structure]] without wanting one because all new power structures are always based on earlier power structures finally leading to people flaming the [[Lowest Troll]] to be a Despot, Dictator, Fascist, [[Sysop]] or [[GodKing]] with [[God's Eye View]].
-:''This page approved by [[OurAnswer:Greens]].  No other [[faction]] has commented.''
+--------
-The purpose of this tag is to make clear to any [[new troll]] that at least one non-troll faction must approve before something is guaranteed to stay in the same name space with non-troll work.  It also tells other [[faction]]s that if they do not comment, then the decisions are likely to be made by the only/few factions that care.  If, for instance, the "Reds" check out the page and make '''''no edits''''', they can then change the '''faction tag''' to:
+''This stuff from [[Meta-Wikipedia]]'s list of IRC quotes seems relevant to the question of tagging for [[faction]]:''
-:''This page approved by [[OurAnswer:Greens]] and [[OurAnswer:Reds]].  No other [[faction]] has commented.''
+<juxho> here are the basic assumptions i'm relying on: there
+        will be [[opinion wiki]] where strict syntax will be
+        required to get aggregate information to [[publish wiki]],
+        non-neutral-pov is the rule. there will be research
+        wiki where all non-neutral-pov stuff will get axed
+        immediatelly with a kind notice to go mess around in the
+        [[opinion wiki]]. [[publish wiki]] will import from
+        [[research wiki]] pending that someone will bet their own
+        credibility in declaring some information so certain that
+        it needs to be published. also aggregated (via SQL scripts
+        written in a not-yet-decided language) will be used to
+        automatically update the articles in [[publish wiki]] with
+        the aggregate information from [[opinion wiki]] with
+        highlights and links to the whole mess of opinions
+        * juxho gone to drink more beer
+%
+   <nsh> I'm currently putting off over 200 individually important tasks
+<Grunt`> nsh: how many of them involve putting off work? ;)
+   <nsh> Grunt`, most of them, but that's the beauty of it
+%
+<clarknova> water isn't cheap at all. it comes at a tremendous
+            hidden cost.
+  <Raul654> It falls from the sky, for free!
+%
+* Kurt__ goes back to planning his capitalist revolution
+* blankfaze goes back to planning his libertarian revolution
+* iostream goes back to planning his opensource revolution
+* Grunt` goes back to planning his revolution revolution
+* morwen goes back to planning her punk rock revolution
+* AdamBishop goes back to revolving around the sun
-But if they '''''did any substantial edit'''' they must instead change it to:
+-----------
-:''This page approved by [[OurAnswer:Reds]].  [[OurAnswer:Greens]] approved an [[earlier version]].  No other [[faction]] has commented or edited this page.''
+How sad that [[Juxo]] discusses this stuff with the [[groupthink]]ers, but not here first!!!  Why not ask intelligent people from all these factions over here?
-The '''tag''' must be kept short, simple, standard, and include links to the earlier version or relevant comment.  For instance if the [[OurAnswer:Blues]] say "this page should not exist", that must be also referred somewhere in tags.